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The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government "space agencies" show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.More irrelevant drivel. Get your trash off of this thread.
The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.
The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense.
Would it be a stretch, in light of the above, to at least suspect that the "Catholics" who are pushing this dreck just might not be Catholic Catholics even merely by profession?Believe it or not, I am suspicious of the same thing. Why not the enemy robbed the Vatican from us so why not focus on the traditionals.
I ask that if this "FE" business can be reasonably shown to be proselytizing for another religion, then wouldn't that change things a mite?
Believe it or not, I am suspicious of the same thing. Why not the enemy robbed the Vatican from us so why not focus on the traditionals.
Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?
The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
Meg, if I didn't I would be committing a grave sacrilege every time I received Our Lord at Holy Communion Body, Soul and Divinity as anyone else here would be guilty of.
I don't understand why that question is tossed again and again on a Catholic forum.
Do you besides being so eager to fall off the edge (no pun meant ... well... ;)) do you actually believe you are all some sort of gods to be even asking and judging people who do not agree with you about Catholic dogma.
Meg, if I didn't I would be committing a grave sacrilege every time I received Our Lord at Holy Communion Body, Soul and Divinity as anyone else here would be guilty of.It is highly unlikely that they mean the same things with the words that they use, including those composing their questions.
I don't understand why that question is tossed again and again on a Catholic forum.
Do you besides being so eager to fall off the edge (no pun meant ... well... ;)) do you actually believe you are all some sort of gods to be even asking and judging people who do not agree with you about Catholic dogma.
It is highly unlikely that they mean the same things with the words that they use, including those composing their questions.
In short, to answer a question like that only fuels wickedness and doubly so in consideration of the matter.
Beside, just as they are quite possibly lying, any (other?) heretic can and has done so including under Catholic sounding questions.
Think of this; if they actually are fakes, using the same terms as actual Catholics, as used in and by the real Church, then just as with historic heretics facing the Inquisition they can make pretense at orthodoxy by equivocation of Catholic terms.
This I very much suspect is happening here.
The Inquisitors were, figuratively speaking, wrestling with greased heretical pigs just to pin them down and get a clear answer.
Sound familiar?
Dizzy,Also notice the guile, the manipulation, the tactics of insinuation including the assumptions(?) that:
Since the subject of the FE wasn't banned, I think that you must be quite upset about it.
I don't understand why the FE can cause grown men to become so emotional and upset. It's kinda girlie.
Notice anything?You're very dishonest.
Some "Fathers" of Flat Earth
1. Samuel Birley Rowbotham (http://file://C:/Program%20Files%20%28x86%29/ConnectedText/Images/external.gif) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Rowbotham)
2. William Carpenter (http://file://C:/Program%20Files%20%28x86%29/ConnectedText/Images/external.gif) (https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/some-'fathers'-of-flat-earth/javascript:void(0))
3. John Jasper (http://file://C:/Program%20Files%20%28x86%29/ConnectedText/Images/external.gif) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jasper)
4. Wilbur Glenn Voliva (http://file://C:/Program%20Files%20%28x86%29/ConnectedText/Images/external.gif) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilbur_Glenn_Voliva)
You're very dishonest.What keeps this "sequitur" from being a "non" exactly?
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Happenby has given you many, many flat earth quotes from the REAL Church Fathers.
Also note the, nigh-immediate, derail instigated by them, like a magic trick.
"No no, don't look at or think about the actual topic, or what it could portend. Look here, I'm insulting you in between irrelevancies, like Myrna's Catholicity...."
You're very dishonest.I should add thanks however that you tip the scales of certitude towards the conclusion that FE is another religion and/or of the credo of same.
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Happenby has given you many, many flat earth quotes from the REAL Church Fathers.
And what if we do look at or think about the topic? What would be your response? It would likely be rude and nasty. And it's likely, too, that you wouldn't even consider seriously addressing what anyone would say in response to your OP, if what they say disagrees with you in any way at all.Does anyone else hear breaking glass? Perhaps it isn't true that witches hate the sound of it.
Do you believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s)?With all honesty, every real Catholic on this website has to answer this question with a resounding "no", because The Catholic Church doesn't have any "Dogmas' ". This is a weird question to ask over and over again, as it is not even proper English. Others have pointed this out, so you realy need to drop the apostrophe. If you drop the apostraphe and make the word "Dogmas" instead of "Dogmas' " people would actually start saying "yes"!
The majority of people on Cathinfo.com who refuse to believe that the earth is flat also do not believe all Infallibly Defined Dogmas’ of the Catholic Church without innovation(s).
Would it be a stretch, in light of the above, to at least suspect that the "Catholics" who are pushing this dreck just might not be Catholic Catholics even merely by profession?
I ask that if this "FE" business can be reasonably shown to be proselytizing for another religion, then wouldn't that change things a mite?
The Guardian was kinda asking the same question...Thanks. Those "odd timings" are, well, odd.
Flat-Earthers are back: 'It’s almost like the beginning of a new religion'
Link here (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2016/jan/20/flat-earth-believers-youtube-videos-conspiracy-theorists) for article...
BTW, an earlier video I posted on another thread was taken from this article.
With all honesty, every real Catholic on this website has to answer this question with a resounding "no", because The Catholic Church doesn't have any "Dogmas' ". This is a weird question to ask over and over again, as it is not even proper English. Others have pointed this out, so you realy need to drop the apostrophe. If you drop the apostraphe and make the word "Dogmas" instead of "Dogmas' " people would actually start saying "yes"!.
Dogmas' do not exist...
."My precious Dogmaziz! We hateziz the Hobstats!"
I keep waiting for what it is that belongs to the unnamed "Dogmas' " but they haven't said what they are.
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Dogmas' what?
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The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government "space agencies" show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos..
The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it..
The natural physics of water is to find and maintain its level. If Earth were a giant sphere tilted, wobbling and hurdling through infinite space then truly flat, consistently level surfaces would not exist here. But since Earth is in fact an extended flat plane, this fundamental physical property of fluids finding and remaining level is consistent with experience and common sense..