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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Shooting stars and satellites
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2024, 11:40:41 AM »
It might go underneath the earth (which Scripture tells us, is standing on 4 pillars).  Or, the book of Enoch describes portals/doors in the "heavens" (i.e. high above, near the firmament) which angels open and close to control the weather and other things.  I'm not sure. 
Is the Book of Enoch in the Catholic Bible?

Offline Matthew

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Re: Shooting stars and satellites
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2024, 12:03:33 PM »
And when it gets all the way west, how does it get back east again?

It goes in circle. Look at a flat earth map, and circuмnavigate the globe east-west (which is the only way planes fly, for some reason). It would form a circle -- which happens every day. So yes, being able to sail around the earth or "circuмnavigate" poses 0 problem for flat earth model.


Offline Matthew

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Re: Shooting stars and satellites
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2024, 12:08:38 PM »
Is the Book of Enoch in the Catholic Bible?

No it is not.
Nevertheless, the better question is: why was Enoch disqualified? Some non-canonical books ("Apocrypha") are completely trustworthy, but the Catholic Church never ruled that they were "inspired by the Holy Ghost AND were always part of Scripture". 

Let's just say "not chosen for the Canon of Scripture" doesn't mean "burn it with fire!". Think of all the non-Canonical books written by man (not the Holy Ghost) are praiseworthy to read: The Imitation of Christ, Intro to the Devout Life, the Summa Theologica, etc.

There is a huge variety among the Apocrypha: Some of the books are erroneous and filled with heresies. Others just didn't quite make the cut. Maybe they appeared too late, and the Church erred on the side of caution. Or maybe there was an issue with translations, and the Church couldn't de-tangle the mess. There are 99 reasons why a given book could have been excluded from the Canon. Heretical content is only one of them.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Shooting stars and satellites
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2024, 12:12:09 PM »
Works for me. :laugh1:

Seriously, though, I do believe that the "Star of Bethlehem" was not some natural phenomenon as various rationalists try to make it out to be.  We read that the Wise Men could use the star to locate precisely the place where Our Lord had been born, the very manger.  There's no way a normal "star" could be used to pinpoint a location that exactly.  I believe they were following some angelic vision.  Recall that the term "star" did not have the connotations back then of "a huge sun millions of miles away", but was merely a term for a "lesser light" (vs. the sun or the moon).

Just one more reason to embrace Flat Earth. Much easier for keeping the Faith, keeping both halves of your body on ONE side of the fence, not being divided. I'm sick of bending over backwards, feeling sheepish, feeling embarrassed, at verses like this in Scripture. There's no need to be! The supernatural exists, God created the world, he's ABOVE us (not underneath us if we're on the other side of the globe) and He and His angels control "the powers of heaven". He can make the sun stand still, dance in the sky, or make a bright light illuminate where the manger was. No problem.

If some of you want to try to "square the circle" and believe in the satanist's "outer space" paradigm (but NOT the Big Bang or Evolution that comes with it -- oh, no!) but also God and Creation -- go ahead. I can't stop you. But I'm warning you it's imprudent and unnecessary.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Shooting stars and satellites
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2024, 12:17:25 PM »
It is just that I am trying to determine what I am seeing in the night sky.  I am a visual person.  I know what the solar system model is for heliocentric and geocentric.  I cannot visualize what the solar system model is for a flat earth.

I want to interject here that you are perfectly normal. You've been told since you were knee-high to a grasshopper that the earth is a ball. OF COURSE you're going to struggle to break out of that brainwashing programming. I would be absolutely shocked if you weren't struggling! It's really not easy. It's quite a feat when anyone breaks out of such pervasive, universal, reinforced programming.

We must be patient and compassionate when dealing with those of good will who struggle against the programming they've received A) for decades B) from all quarters and C) since they were 2 years old.

I will say this though: you won't break out of it without use of your Reason.

There are good videos out there that really helped me learn the truth.

9.7 GB -- a very large file!
https://www.cathinfo.com/files/flatearth.zip