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Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #105 on:** March 09, 2016, 12:21:37 AM »

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This entire thread is chaff. It is posted on Cathinfo by a mole, to later use as evidence that Cathinfo is inhabited by "conspiracy nuts".

Chaff - radar-reflective aluminum foil strips ejected from aircraft by the ton with the intent of deceiving and defeating ground to air missles and radar.

All I want to know is the truth. Do you have any evidence from Nasa, the Government and or Military sources that have proven the curvature of the earth?

It takes so little time to get to the truth of this. Watch this video so you can know...

Thanks for the link. I am now convinced the earth is flat. Keep up the great work. :applause:

Cool! I love this truth so much I am compelled to share! Considering the beauty and simplicity of it, how closely heaven is in relation to earth, the sun, moon and stars are lights, not worlds, close not far...we are not orphans lost in space jetting around like a space ship without apparent purpose, but creation makes sense. It isn't chaos, whirling, wobbling, it's a FOUNDATION. Like the Church. Up is up, not "out." Down is down, not at some oblique angle to the center of the earth. Christ rose for all, not down for those on the opposite side of a ball. The Great Flood makes sense, etc. Conversely, modern science is that science falsely so-called scripture speaks of. The diabolical disorientation Sr. Lucy spoke of makes physical as well as spiritual sense. I could go on and on. But you will have more fun finding out all the stuff that comes as you study it further and rejoice in creation as God designed it. Thanks for listening. I love Catholics.

This flat earth concept is so simple a little child can understand it.

Matthew 18:3 And said: Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

aryzia · « **Reply #106 on:** March 09, 2016, 12:24:01 AM »

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...by reason of ANY
excommunication, suspension, interdict or other ecclesiastical impediment”

I will be interested to hear your explanation of how heresy, a violation against divine law, constitutes an "ecclesiastical impediment."

Lets use "excommunication". That necessarily includes heretics booted for heresy because it says ANY excommunication.

aryzia · « **Reply #107 on:** March 09, 2016, 12:26:53 AM »

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This entire thread is chaff. It is posted on Cathinfo by a mole, to later use as evidence that Cathinfo is inhabited by "conspiracy nuts".

Chaff - radar-reflective aluminum foil strips ejected from aircraft by the ton with the intent of deceiving and defeating ground to air missles and radar.

All I want to know is the truth. Do you have any evidence from Nasa, the Government and or Military sources that have proven the curvature of the earth?

It takes so little time to get to the truth of this. Watch this video so you can know...

Thanks for the link. I am now convinced the earth is flat. Keep up the great work. :applause:

Cool! I love this truth so much I am compelled to share! Considering the beauty and simplicity of it, how closely heaven is in relation to earth, the sun, moon and stars are lights, not worlds, close not far...we are not orphans lost in space jetting around like a space ship without apparent purpose, but creation makes sense. It isn't chaos, whirling, wobbling, it's a FOUNDATION. Like the Church. Up is up, not "out." Down is down, not at some oblique angle to the center of the earth. Christ rose for all, not down for those on the opposite side of a ball. The Great Flood makes sense, etc. Conversely, modern science is that science falsely so-called scripture speaks of. The diabolical disorientation Sr. Lucy spoke of makes physical as well as spiritual sense. I could go on and on. But you will have more fun finding out all the stuff that comes as you study it further and rejoice in creation as God designed it. Thanks for listening. I love Catholics.

This flat earth concept is so simple a little child can understand it.

Matthew 18:3 And said: Amen I say to you, unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Such enviable humility.

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #108 on:** March 09, 2016, 05:17:11 AM »

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...by reason of ANY
excommunication, suspension, interdict or other ecclesiastical impediment”

I will be interested to hear your explanation of how heresy, a violation against divine law, constitutes an "ecclesiastical impediment."

Lets use "excommunication". That necessarily includes heretics booted for heresy because it says ANY excommunication.

“None of the Cardinals may, by pretext or reason of any
excommunication, suspension, or interdict whatsoever, or of any other ecclesiastical
impediment, be excluded from the active and passive election of the Supreme Pontiff”
(Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis, 1945).

ANY....OTHER......ECCLESIASTICAL

Do you get it now?

As for the flat earth nonsense, why did you ignore my Pikes Peak proof?

Donachie · « **Reply #109 on:** March 09, 2016, 09:28:16 AM »

The Earth is a perfect sphere at rest at the center of the cosmos. It's not moving but it's not flat either. Venerable Bede and the ancient Greeks knew that the Earth is a sphere and that it is not moving and that all the stars and the Sun and the Moon orbit it.

Old Catholic heraldry shows it that way too. The Carthusian escutcheon for one example and the motto, "Stat Crux Dum Volvitur Orbis".

The heliocentrics from Newton's time are the one's who have it deformed with supposedly "squeazed-in polar caps" and an "equatorial bulge", from "gravity" so-called. But it does not have "squeazed-in polar caps" or an "equatorial bulge" at all.

From Aristotle and others the circle and the sphere are regarded as signs of perfection, etc. The horizons are all circular and symmetrical. And space is 3-D. Any circle balanced and filled out in in 3-d becomes a sphere etc.

aryzia · « **Reply #110 on:** March 09, 2016, 09:56:47 AM »

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...by reason of ANY
excommunication, suspension, interdict or other ecclesiastical impediment”

I will be interested to hear your explanation of how heresy, a violation against divine law, constitutes an "ecclesiastical impediment."

Lets use "excommunication". That necessarily includes heretics booted for heresy because it says ANY excommunication.

“None of the Cardinals may, by pretext or reason of any
excommunication, suspension, or interdict whatsoever, or of any other ecclesiastical
impediment, be excluded from the active and passive election of the Supreme Pontiff”
(Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis, 1945).

ANY....OTHER......ECCLESIASTICAL

Do you get it now?

As for the flat earth nonsense, why did you ignore my Pikes Peak proof?

No, I do not get it. That statement says NONE may be excluded from the active or passive election of the pope. That means once the election begins, no one can be excluded from electing or being elected.

As for flat earth response, why did you not view the video? Pikes Peak is no proof once you've seen how things really work.

aryzia · « **Reply #111 on:** March 09, 2016, 10:02:42 AM »

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The Earth is a perfect sphere at rest at the center of the cosmos. It's not moving but it's not flat either. Venerable Bede and the ancient Greeks knew that the Earth is a sphere and that it is not moving and that all the stars and the Sun and the Moon orbit it.

Old Catholic heraldry shows it that way too. The Carthusian escutcheon for one example and the motto, "Stat Crux Dum Volvitur Orbis".

The heliocentrics from Newton's time are the one's who have it deformed with supposedly "squeazed-in polar caps" and an "equatorial bulge", from "gravity" so-called. But it does not have "squeazed-in polar caps" or an "equatorial bulge" at all.

From Aristotle and others the circle and the sphere are regarded as signs of perfection, etc. The horizons are all circular and symmetrical. And space is 3-D. Any circle balanced and filled out in in 3-d becomes a sphere etc.

Saying earth is a perfect sphere at rest at the center of the cosmos is a statement unfounded in fact. And what Aristotle said about the sphere cannot stand in the face of empirical evidence to the contrary. Please view the video to see the true scientific proof of the reality of creation.

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #112 on:** March 09, 2016, 11:26:47 AM »

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...by reason of ANY
excommunication, suspension, interdict or other ecclesiastical impediment”

I will be interested to hear your explanation of how heresy, a violation against divine law, constitutes an "ecclesiastical impediment."

Lets use "excommunication". That necessarily includes heretics booted for heresy because it says ANY excommunication.

“None of the Cardinals may, by pretext or reason of any
excommunication, suspension, or interdict whatsoever, or of any other ecclesiastical
impediment, be excluded from the active and passive election of the Supreme Pontiff”
(Vacantis Apostolicae Sedis, 1945).

ANY....OTHER......ECCLESIASTICAL

Do you get it now?

As for the flat earth nonsense, why did you ignore my Pikes Peak proof?

No, I do not get it. That statement says NONE may be excluded from the active or passive election of the pope. That means once the election begins, no one can be excluded from electing or being elected.

As for flat earth response, why did you not view the video? Pikes Peak is no proof once you've seen how things really work.

1. My advice for you is to stop leading souls into error by your inaccurate interpretations. Remember, you are accountable for every word! "NONE BY PRETEXT or REASON of"......NOT solely NONE!

2. I did waste about 5 minutes of my time on that nonsense. If you can't refute my Pikes Peak example in YOUR own words, you lost, period.

aryzia · « **Reply #113 on:** March 09, 2016, 11:59:37 AM »

Mark Twain so aptly described the problem with stubborn belief and refusal to learn when he said:

"When even the brightest mind in our world has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and conscientiously any evidence or any circuмstance which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of that superstition. I doubt if I could do it myself."

I hope to prove Mark Twain wrong.

Those pushing the heliocentric, sun-worshiping model are necessarily Luciferian dictators bent on controlling the masses. Consider the famous heliocentrists: Copernicus was a sun worshiper and womanizer; Keplar dabbled in the occult and likely murdered the geocentric Tycho Brahe and plagiarized his writings. Galileo was also a plagiarist and gave the great St. Robert Bellarmine quite the headache in 1633 when he defied the Church and scripture in favor of his occult beliefs. Einstein was a womanizer, anti-Catholic child-abandoning monster. How interesting that these men are heralded throughout the centuries as the "fathers of modern science". And so they are.

Today, we have the Godless NASA of this same, (r)evolutionary science: the most controlling, lying, manipulative syndicate spending in 50 years almost 20 billion dollars just to blow up rockets and peddle CGI images to the unsuspecting public. These GLOBALISTS are indoctrinating you and your kids. Take the time to look into the flat earth, NASA, the hoaxes it perpetrates and find peace in creation as God made it. The earth is flat and stationary as scripture described it.

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #114 on:** March 09, 2016, 01:28:38 PM »

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Mark Twain so aptly described the problem with stubborn belief and refusal to learn when he said:

"When even the brightest mind in our world has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and conscientiously any evidence or any circuмstance which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of that superstition. I doubt if I could do it myself."

I hope to prove Mark Twain wrong.

Those pushing the heliocentric, sun-worshiping model are necessarily Luciferian dictators bent on controlling the masses. Consider the famous heliocentrists: Copernicus was a sun worshiper and womanizer; Keplar dabbled in the occult and likely murdered the geocentric Tycho Brahe and plagiarized his writings. Galileo was also a plagiarist and gave the great St. Robert Bellarmine quite the headache in 1633 when he defied the Church and scripture in favor of his occult beliefs. Einstein was a womanizer, anti-Catholic child-abandoning monster. How interesting that these men are heralded throughout the centuries as the "fathers of modern science". And so they are.

Today, we have the Godless NASA of this same, (r)evolutionary science: the most controlling, lying, manipulative syndicate spending in 50 years almost 20 billion dollars just to blow up rockets and peddle CGI images to the unsuspecting public. These GLOBALISTS are indoctrinating you and your kids. Take the time to look into the flat earth, NASA, the hoaxes it perpetrates and find peace in creation as God made it. The earth is flat and stationary as scripture described it.

Please, just explain to me in a logical fashion, in your own words, why one sees the summit of Pikes Peak first and then the gradual exposition of it's base when one travels on I 70 going west from the Kansas border? If you can't you lost the argument.

BTW: I homeschool and teach the geo model. Also,

aryzia · « **Reply #115 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:10:32 PM »

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Mark Twain so aptly described the problem with stubborn belief and refusal to learn when he said:

"When even the brightest mind in our world has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and conscientiously any evidence or any circuмstance which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of that superstition. I doubt if I could do it myself."

I hope to prove Mark Twain wrong.

Those pushing the heliocentric, sun-worshiping model are necessarily Luciferian dictators bent on controlling the masses. Consider the famous heliocentrists: Copernicus was a sun worshiper and womanizer; Keplar dabbled in the occult and likely murdered the geocentric Tycho Brahe and plagiarized his writings. Galileo was also a plagiarist and gave the great St. Robert Bellarmine quite the headache in 1633 when he defied the Church and scripture in favor of his occult beliefs. Einstein was a womanizer, anti-Catholic child-abandoning monster. How interesting that these men are heralded throughout the centuries as the "fathers of modern science". And so they are.

Today, we have the Godless NASA of this same, (r)evolutionary science: the most controlling, lying, manipulative syndicate spending in 50 years almost 20 billion dollars just to blow up rockets and peddle CGI images to the unsuspecting public. These GLOBALISTS are indoctrinating you and your kids. Take the time to look into the flat earth, NASA, the hoaxes it perpetrates and find peace in creation as God made it. The earth is flat and stationary as scripture described it.

Please, just explain to me in a logical fashion, in your own words, why one sees the summit of Pikes Peak first and then the gradual exposition of it's base when one travels on I 70 going west from the Kansas border? If you can't you lost the argument.

BTW: I homeschool and teach the geo model. Also,

In fact, if you take a camera with a zoom lens, you will see the entire mountain, base and all. Your eyes simply do not afford the same luxury.

Recusant Sede · « **Reply #116 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:37:01 PM »

Quote from: aryzia

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Quote from: aryzia
Mark Twain so aptly described the problem with stubborn belief and refusal to learn when he said:

"When even the brightest mind in our world has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and conscientiously any evidence or any circuмstance which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of that superstition. I doubt if I could do it myself."

I hope to prove Mark Twain wrong.

Those pushing the heliocentric, sun-worshiping model are necessarily Luciferian dictators bent on controlling the masses. Consider the famous heliocentrists: Copernicus was a sun worshiper and womanizer; Keplar dabbled in the occult and likely murdered the geocentric Tycho Brahe and plagiarized his writings. Galileo was also a plagiarist and gave the great St. Robert Bellarmine quite the headache in 1633 when he defied the Church and scripture in favor of his occult beliefs. Einstein was a womanizer, anti-Catholic child-abandoning monster. How interesting that these men are heralded throughout the centuries as the "fathers of modern science". And so they are.

Today, we have the Godless NASA of this same, (r)evolutionary science: the most controlling, lying, manipulative syndicate spending in 50 years almost 20 billion dollars just to blow up rockets and peddle CGI images to the unsuspecting public. These GLOBALISTS are indoctrinating you and your kids. Take the time to look into the flat earth, NASA, the hoaxes it perpetrates and find peace in creation as God made it. The earth is flat and stationary as scripture described it.

Please, just explain to me in a logical fashion, in your own words, why one sees the summit of Pikes Peak first and then the gradual exposition of it's base when one travels on I 70 going west from the Kansas border? If you can't you lost the argument.

BTW: I homeschool and teach the geo model. Also,

In fact, if you take a camera with a zoom lens, you will see the entire mountain, base and all. Your eyes simply do not afford the same luxury.

Thanks for the exchange .....I will say an Ave Maria for you.

aryzia · « **Reply #117 on:** March 09, 2016, 03:20:54 PM »

You said:
1. My advice for you is to stop leading souls into error by your inaccurate interpretations. Remember, you are accountable for every word! "NONE BY PRETEXT or REASON of"......NOT solely NONE!

Actually, it is "none". And the Pope adds, to be certain it is understood that NONE dare even DREAM of interfering with a conclave, he includes "by pretext, or reason of..." stating every possible eventuality with these possibilities.

Your interpretation suggests that the statement that actually says "none of the cardinals" thus possibly means, "some" or perhaps even just one, exclusion. That is illogical. None is none. There is no barring of voters, nor candidates, from assuming office of Pope once the cardinals begin the process. They call it pretext because any politicking is not tolerated. God handles it at that point, protects the Church if a bad guy gets in, He allows for a council to remove whoever sneaked in to do his own will as some have done. Otherwise, the process can be stalled ad infinitum as usurping cardinals could point fingers and yell "heretic!" every time they don't get what they want.

Popes have done plenty of damage in the past, of that there is no doubt. To suggest (as sedes assert) that you know personally, or that history somehow proves, that none of the bad popes were heretics, is so ridiculous as to suggest malice. A person after his own will to the detriment of the Church is by definition, in some kind of heresy, for heresy means "to choose". Manifest, material, formal, whatever the brand of heresy, it remains for the Church to make the final proclamation on such a man accused, because the verdict affects the entire world of people. Without that verdict, you only have varying opposing opinions. Without the Church's final say, the laity cannot possibly be sure what to think or who to follow. See today's Church.

aryzia · « **Reply #118 on:** March 09, 2016, 03:22:24 PM »

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Quote from: aryzia
Mark Twain so aptly described the problem with stubborn belief and refusal to learn when he said:

"When even the brightest mind in our world has been trained up from childhood in a superstition of any kind, it will never be possible for that mind, in its maturity, to examine sincerely, dispassionately, and conscientiously any evidence or any circuмstance which shall seem to cast a doubt upon the validity of that superstition. I doubt if I could do it myself."

I hope to prove Mark Twain wrong.

Those pushing the heliocentric, sun-worshiping model are necessarily Luciferian dictators bent on controlling the masses. Consider the famous heliocentrists: Copernicus was a sun worshiper and womanizer; Keplar dabbled in the occult and likely murdered the geocentric Tycho Brahe and plagiarized his writings. Galileo was also a plagiarist and gave the great St. Robert Bellarmine quite the headache in 1633 when he defied the Church and scripture in favor of his occult beliefs. Einstein was a womanizer, anti-Catholic child-abandoning monster. How interesting that these men are heralded throughout the centuries as the "fathers of modern science". And so they are.

Today, we have the Godless NASA of this same, (r)evolutionary science: the most controlling, lying, manipulative syndicate spending in 50 years almost 20 billion dollars just to blow up rockets and peddle CGI images to the unsuspecting public. These GLOBALISTS are indoctrinating you and your kids. Take the time to look into the flat earth, NASA, the hoaxes it perpetrates and find peace in creation as God made it. The earth is flat and stationary as scripture described it.

Please, just explain to me in a logical fashion, in your own words, why one sees the summit of Pikes Peak first and then the gradual exposition of it's base when one travels on I 70 going west from the Kansas border? If you can't you lost the argument.

BTW: I homeschool and teach the geo model. Also,

In fact, if you take a camera with a zoom lens, you will see the entire mountain, base and all. Your eyes simply do not afford the same luxury.

Thanks for the exchange .....I will say an Ave Maria for you.

Thank you! I will do the same for you. God bless

aryzia · « **Reply #119 on:** March 09, 2016, 04:22:59 PM »