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Author Topic: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba  (Read 4846 times)

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Re: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2018, 08:27:56 AM »
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Dr. Robert Sungenis @ 1:31:08
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What is the origin of "flat" earth and how does it effect [sic] big bang and evolution?
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"Rob [Skiba] also went through all these authors that talk about how the book of Genesis is to be interpreted, especially when they come to the firmament. And they [the quoted authors] say, well, the firmament has to be a dome, and the earth has to be flat, and all these things. Even now, there's a lot of scholars who write that [regarding the origins of Hebrew cosmology], and I was under the impression that they were all correct, as well. And [after researching its development, it turns out that] the reason they claim to be correct is, they claim that the Hebrews got that information from the ancient Mesopotamian cultures that lived before them.
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"And that these Mesopotamian cultures who didn't know, really, how the world was constructed, made up all kinds of things; one of them was a 'flat' earth with a 'dome' over it. And there were different variations of the 'flat' earth and a 'dome' among different ancient Mesopotamian cultures. And the liberal scholarship that we've all been under for decades now, has made the claim that the Hebrews basically took these Mesopotamian texts, rearranged them a little bit to fit their Hebrew sensitivities, and Voilla! We have the same basic construction of the universe that these Babylonian cultures had!
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"And that was the abiding theory, and it really fit like a glove for them. Because, you know what they did after that? They'd say, 'Well, but we know that isn't the truth. We know there isn't a "dome," we know that the earth isn't "flat," so we can make up anything that we want!' Voilla!! We have the Big Bang Theory!! And we have evolution!!, and we have all kinds of ideas about what's out there in space!! 
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"You see? So, what I'm trying to say is, this whole idea of the firmament with the 'dome' was some cockamamy idea that was thought up by some liberal scholars who had no respect whatsoever for the Bible [the Bible has no "dome" in it], and were trying to figure out, well, 'Where did [should we say] this ["flat" earth cosmology] come from? Well, it came from these pagan Mesopotamian people over here, that's where we'll say it came from! And we know they're really not up on cosmology, so that will give us the excuse that we can make up any cosmology we want!' and that's exactly what we have today."

Re: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2018, 05:24:04 PM »
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In just 3 minutes, Dr. Sungenis destroys the entire foundation that Catholics could have in any Biblical basis for "flat" earth.
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It's over.
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No Catholic can any longer argue that honest exegesis of Scripture supports "flat" earth, or that it ever has. 
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Re: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2018, 01:33:08 PM »
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In just 3 minutes, Dr. Sungenis destroys the entire foundation that Catholics could have in any Biblical basis for "flat" earth.
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It's over.
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No Catholic can any longer argue that honest exegesis of Scripture supports "flat" earth, or that it ever has.
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Well said Neil!

Re: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 01:02:51 AM »
Well said Neil!
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Thank you, klags. 
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I tried to pare it down to a sound byte because people don't have patience anymore for a message longer than a tweet. 
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The comments under the channel page video are hilarious -- not one of them mentions this bombshell.
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And Sungenis was very cautious not to harp on this by repeating it over and over like Skiba does with most everything.
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Apparently flat-earthers need to hear a lot of repetition, or else they'll ignore it -- 
     -- but when you repeat a bombshell over and over then they'll complain that you're repeating yourself!

Re: Robert Sungenis to debate Rob Skiba
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2018, 04:47:24 PM »
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Goodness, what a ghost town! --  (If claudel were here he could complain about a larger font.)      
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Flat-earthdom syndromers might actually be aware of when they've lost the war.
At least they can be aware of something.
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Because they're certainly not willing to be aware of the obvious signs all around them, like the MOON the past week.
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In its current cycle the moon is far more high in the sky, passing nearly directly overhead in the 34th northern parallel at night.
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This past full moon, on Thanksgiving Day, was most spectacular with the moon within 5% of being exactly overhead at midnight.
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Which of course is impossible if the earth were "flat" -- so flat-earthdom syndromers choose not to look at such a moon.
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It's too disturbing for them.
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Just like thinking about what Dr. Robert Sungenis said at 1:30:00 to 1:33:00 is too disturbing, so they just don't listen.
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They don't listen because they don't want to know the truth, and they don't want to learn what God has given them to know.
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