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Offline kiwiboy

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Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
« on: February 15, 2018, 01:16:44 PM »
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    The above is a truly excellent video. I recommend all sincere truth seekers to watch it.

    Based on the second proof of the flat earth it shows mountain peaks photographed from mostly other mountain peaks, and they should not be visible, or in some cases at least mostly out of sight, yet they are almost fully visible.

    It is using a website which is not even flat earth. (so you can't cry "fake news") One or two of the places where the photos were taken from seem not to be so certain (an objection from some), but most are irrefutable.

    I'll respond to samuel's nonsense reponse on the utah video later.
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    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 02:28:39 PM »
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    • Lots of refraction going on out there.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 02:36:19 PM »
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    • I found this about refraction (on Wikipedia) --

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    A simple approximation is to consider that a mountain's apparent altitude at your eye (in degrees) will exceed its true altitude by its distance in kilometers divided by 1500. This assumes a fairly horizontal line of sight and ordinary air density; if the mountain is very high (so much of the sightline is in thinner air) divide by 1600 instead.

    It would be interesting to apply this formula and then look at the pictures in the video again.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 02:41:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 15, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
    I found this about refraction (on Wikipedia) --

    It would be interesting to apply this formula and then look at the pictures in the video again.

    I just took the first one here --

    Distance = 443 km
    Viewer Height = 9,252 feet
    Target Mountain Height = 12,740
    Hidden = 16,534

    so, if I take 443 / 1500, I get .295

    Then I multiply the mountain height by 1.295 and get 16,498 ... still a few feet bellow what should be hidden.

    Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 03:40:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 15, 2018, 02:41:52 PM
    I just took the first one here --

    Distance = 443 km
    Viewer Height = 9,252 feet
    Target Mountain Height = 12,740
    Hidden = 16,534

    so, if I take 443 / 1500, I get .295

    Then I multiply the mountain height by 1.295 and get 16,498 ... still a few feet bellow what should be hidden.

    Unless I'm misunderstanding how this works.

    That's just a formula for balancing out curvature.

    But what's the basis for this?

    Think about it. Think about what refraction is and how it works. How it cannot possibly happen in all these various conditions whenever the air is clear.

    Think about the steadiness and integrity of these images and compare them to genuine reflected images like mirages and so forth.
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    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 08:11:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: kiwiboy on February 16, 2018, 03:40:12 AM
    That's just a formula for balancing out curvature.

    But what's the basis for this?

    Think about it. Think about what refraction is and how it works. How it cannot possibly happen in all these various conditions whenever the air is clear.

    Think about the steadiness and integrity of these images and compare them to genuine reflected images like mirages and so forth.

    But that's my point.  Even taking into account and applying this formula, the mountain should STILL be hidden from view.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 04:13:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 16, 2018, 08:11:19 AM
    But that's my point.  Even taking into account and applying this formula, the mountain should STILL be hidden from view.
    I wish Neil Obstat would at least try to explain why the mountain is not hidden from view at this distance away from it.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 04:22:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Truth is Eternal on February 16, 2018, 04:13:02 PM
    I wish Neil Obstat would at least try to explain why the mountain is not hidden from view at this distance away from it.
    He can't.  Neil uses cut-and-paste articles and depends entirely on others for his information.  He looks for what he can find that might support his claims, but never really understands what he posts.  If he can find a long, drawn out explanation for what he thinks must be true, he posts it, even though the answer is inadequate.   
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #8 on: February 20, 2018, 09:44:16 PM »
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 09:52:15 PM »
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    • Poor self-professing globe earthers.
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 11:09:29 PM »
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    Why do flat-earthers pretend the earth is "flat" when everyone knows it's not?
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    Re: Record Long Distance Photographs Prove the Flat Earth
    « Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 04:37:39 PM »
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