So after reading the book "Geocentrism For Dumskies and Smart Kids" by Dr. Robert Sungenis, which presented conclusive evidence of modern science not only having no proof for Heliocentrism, but in fact a lot of things pointing towards a Geocentric universe which they don't want to accept out of arrogance, not having to admit that the Church was right and of course not needing to acknowledge the existence of God.
I hope someone knows a thing or two about the subject.
Sorry fort the delay Dankward, just spotted your post today.
First your opening remark. Yes, and here is why they deny it, from popes to communists.
The Tolstoy Syndrome
‘I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truths if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.’
‘The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.’ --- Leo Tolstoy
Many thanks for your answers, cassini. I'd like to clear some things up. It's a bit hard for me to visualize this, especially the gyroscope part.
So which is correct:
- Earth in the center, Sun orbiting Earth, universe (all of the planets, stars, galaxies) orbiting the Sun or
- Earth in the center, Sun orbiting Earth, universe orbiting Earth but it's center is always the Earth
I assume that if the celestial bodies move in Cassinian ovals, that would explain stellar parallax as well, as bodies are changing their relative positions depending on their cosmic r2 ?
Regarding the seasons: Is it only the Sun and it's moons, or the complete universe oscillating up and down? As far as I understood it's the former, we'd surely notice if the latter was the case :laugh1:.
Many thanks for your answers, cassini. I'd like to clear some things up. It's a bit hard for me to visualize this, especially the gyroscope part.
So which is correct:
- Earth in the center, Sun orbiting Earth, universe (all of the planets, stars, galaxies) orbiting the Sun or
- Earth in the center, Sun orbiting Earth, universe orbiting Earth but it's center is always the Earth
I assume that if the celestial bodies move in Cassinian ovals, that would explain stellar parallax as well, as bodies are changing their relative positions depending on their cosmic r2 ?
Regarding the seasons: Is it only the Sun and it's moons, or the complete universe oscillating up and down? As far as I understood it's the former, we'd surely notice if the latter was the case :laugh1:.
The Earth floats without any movement at the centre of the universe. The sun (with its planet moons) rotates every day around the Earth, moving up and down from the Equator to the tropic of Cancer and then down to the tropic of Capricorn once a year to bring day and nights and seasons on Earth.
Kepler, who was a heliocentrist, used Tycho de Brahe's maths of orbits said orbits were ellipses. Newton used Kepler's ellipses maths to work out his theory of gravitation said to be the LAWS of their solar system. But in Newton's time, Domenico Cassini, God's astronomer, studied the movements and found orbits of the sun and planets are not ellipses but Cassinian ovals. But the Freemasons of the Royal Society of London ignored Cassini's findings to keep their Newtonian heliocentrism.
Later it was found Cassinian ovals are related to Phi, the same maths that describe leaves, shells etc. But more thasn that they are also related to positive electromagnetic waves.
Stellar Parallax. If the Earth orbits the sun a parallax should be found. Pick something to look at. Now walk in as circle. an object between you and your chosen something will look like it goes in a circle. When partallax was found they said it was because the Earth orbits the sun. But if the stars circle the sun as geocentrism says, the same parallax will be found.
Wow, Dankward. your last brilliant question is something I never thought of. The seasons are caused by the annual movement of the sun with its planet moons up and down from the Equator. The stars, which are concorded with the sun, as stellar aberration shows, could well move as the sun does. They are so far away this movement is not measurable.
Interesting insights, thanks cassini.
If anything, I would've bought a telescope with a camera and tracking features to create beautiful captures and stack images digitally to visualize more than one can see with the naked eye, like galaxies, nebulae etc.
Yes Dankward, you could try to track the Zodiac.
The Zodiac
‘Because God created the material universe as an immense parable fraught with supernatural meaning, there exists an intimate relation between faith and the sky. “The heavens show forth the glory of God, and the firmament declareth the work of his hands.” (Ps 18:2). “Who telleth the number of the stars: and calleth them all by their names.” (Ps 146:4). “Shalt thou be able to join together the shining stars the Pleiades, or canst thou stop the turning about of Arcturus?” (Job 38:31-32). “Lift up your eyes on high and see who hath created these things: who bringeth out their host by number, and calleth them all by their names: by the greatness of his might, and power, not one of them was missing.” (Psa 40:26).’ --- Solange Hertz.
When God gave Adam and Eve dominion over the Earth and its creatures, even allowing Adam to name them, God reserved the heavens to Himself and His angels. Some today are familiar with the Zodiac, a cosmic phenomenon observed throughout the year as the sun, as seen from Earth, passes in front of different star clusters on the ecliptic plane of the celestial sphere. These are divided into twelve ‘signs,’ known as constellations, one for each month of the year each with three subsidiary ones in each. In time, mankind found that a line joining these star-clusters depicts a different creature each month. In the Bible, as viewed above, we see it was God who gave names to these annual clusters, but few are aware that He created them to show us the history of the world.
‘The story which the Zodiac unfolds in the course of the year lies in the meanings of these names given by God to each of the star-clusters in its forty-eight constellations when He set them in order in the beginning, making of them, as the Psalmist says: “faithful witnesses in heaven” (Ps. 88:38) of His plan for the world… Put in proper order, beginning not with Aries as now deployed, but with Virgo, the sign under which Our Lady, the Blessed Virgin Mary, was born, and ending with Leo, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lion of Judah, universal Lord of Creation, rather than Pisces [Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo], the Zodiac foretold in the stars the story of the Incarnation, the Redemption and the world to come before the Bible was written. (This, incidentally, provides the answer to the mystery of the Sphinx which, having the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion is therefore simply a representation in stone of the ancient Zodiac). Capricorn, the sign under which Our Lord and saviour was born, is quite properly the Goat, a sacrificial animal offered for the remission of sins under the old law. Its back legs, however, terminate in the tail of a fish, signifying that its death produces life. In the accurate chronological order Capricorn is the fifth of the twelve signs, occurring appropriately in the beginning of the age of the Son in world history. God explicitly refers to the Zodiac when He asks Job out of the whirlwind, “Have you fitted a curb to the Pleiades, or loosened the bonds of Orion? Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth in their season, or guide the Bear with its train?” (Job 38:31-32)’--- Solange Hertz, The Scientific Illusion, 2003.
It is not surprising then, in the context of that great battle of principalities and powers to find occult agents commandeering the Zodiac phenomena and signs for their own needs and to blind humanity to its original purpose in creation. First developed was the pagan astrology, the ancient art of divination by consulting the planets and stars, particularly the signs of the zodiac in relation to observed human events and making deductions and future predictions on this basis. After the Copernican revolution, the sun replaced the Earth at the centre of the Zodiac but the astrology ‘signs’ continued as the object of fraud, superstition and the occult, with men and women still claiming to read personal prophesies and messages in them. Open any newspaper today and see how the Zodiac is used as a useless occult belief system for vast numbers of people as carrying predictions for each of the twelve signs. The Catholic faith of course, absolutely rejects the idea that the sun, moon or planets could actually influence or predict one’s personal present or future behaviour. The Church teaches that men have free will and that God alone knows the future.