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Prophecy about science and apostasy
« on: February 18, 2022, 02:36:29 PM »
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  • I didn't know what category to put this in, but the flat earth forum seems the best place to ask scientific questions. St. Nilus' prophecy is manifested in our times in many ways.  I'm wondering what people think are the "3 hyposteses" he warns about. I'd say the globe is number one. What about the other two? 


    The Prophecy of St. Nilus


    After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable. When the time for the Advent of the Antichrist approaches, people's minds will grow cloudy from carnal passions, and dishonor and lawlessness will grow stronger. Then the world will become unrecognizable. People's appearances will change, and it will be impossible to distinguish men from women due to their shamelessness in dress and style of hair. These people will be cruel and will be like wild animals because of the temptations of the Antichrist. There will be no respect for parents and elders, love will disappear, and Christian pastors, bishops, and priests will become vain men, completely failing to distinguish the right-hand way from the left. At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign. Falsehood and greed will attain great proportions, and woe to those who pile up treasures. Lust, adultery, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, secret deeds and murder will rule in society. At that future time, due to the power of such great crimes and licentiousness, people will be deprived of the grace of the Holy Spirit, which they received in Holy Baptism and equally of remorse.

    The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all. Then they will separate themselves out of the world in holy refuges in search of lightening their spiritual sufferings, but everywhere they will meet obstacles and constraints. And all this will result from the fact that the Antichrist wants to be Lord over everything and become the ruler of the whole universe, and he will produce miracles and fantastic signs. He will also give depraved wisdom to an unhappy man so that he will discover a way by which one man can carry on a conversation with another from one end of the earth to the other. At that time men will also fly through the air like birds and descend to the bottom of the sea like fish. And when they have achieved all this, these unhappy people will spend their lives in comfort without knowing, poor souls, that it is deceit of the Antichrist. And, the impious one! -- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.
    Then the All-good God will see the downfall of the human race and will shorten the days for the sake of those few who are being saved, because the enemy wants to lead even the chosen into temptation, if that is possible... then the sword of chastisement will suddenly appear and kill the perverter and his servants.







    Offline JoeZ

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #1 on: February 18, 2022, 04:31:18 PM »
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  • 1. The denial of Geocentrism and the insignificance of the Earth leads to...
    2. the denial of Creationism (Darwinism) and the insignificance of man leads to...
    3. the possibility of aliens and the impossibility of the existence of God.

    "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead." our Lord Jesus Christ.
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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #2 on: February 18, 2022, 04:58:14 PM »
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  • I didn't know what category to put this in, but the flat earth forum seems the best place to ask scientific questions. 
    :laugh1::laugh2::laugh1:  :facepalm:

    In all likelihood, he's referring to people drugging themselves with 500+ channels of mindless (or worse) flickering images, instagram etc. (complete science with vanity?)

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #3 on: February 19, 2022, 03:00:57 AM »
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  • I didn't know what category to put this in, but the flat earth forum seems the best place to ask scientific questions. St. Nilus' prophecy is manifested in our times in many ways.  I'm wondering what people think are the "3 hyposteses" he warns about. I'd say the globe is number one. What about the other two?

    Number one is (not the Globe but) the Father.
    Number two is the Son.
    Number three is the Holy Ghost.

    The "prophecy" does not warn about the Holy Trinity, rather it says that people will lose faith in the Holy Trinity ("lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases").

    The "prophecy" is a hoax.
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #4 on: February 19, 2022, 05:07:42 AM »
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  • First of all. Is this prophecy authentic? Which is the source?


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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #5 on: February 19, 2022, 07:28:15 AM »
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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #6 on: February 19, 2022, 08:11:58 AM »
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  • 'And, the impious one! -- he will so complete science with vanity that it will go off the right path and lead people to lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases.' St Nilus.

    (1) The first heresy was heliocentrism. So clever was Satan with this heresy that he even fooled the Elect when popes, advised by their Holy Office, allowed a change from the traditional geocentric revelation in Scripture to a heliocentric one, thus allowing human reason and fraud to reinterpret so much of Scripture from the 19th century. Pope Leo XIII in his Providenitissimus deus said science could correct previous wrong understandings of Scripture.

    (2) Following on Newton's evolving Earth, the next heresy was that matter evolved naturally from atoms, a heresy condemned for three centuries by the Fathers and popes of the Catholic Church. This material evolution then went on to the evolution of life, both flora and fauna ending up with the evolution of Adam. None of these evolutionary theories were condemned because popes were conned into thinking the Church was wrong condemning the fixed sun solar-system of Galileo. But not only did they not condem them but even accepted them as true science.. Pius XII told the PAS that the Big Bang was God's creative act, and in his Humani Generis wrote that Adam's body could have evolved from pre-existing LIVING matter (a monkey?). Francis said God was not a magician who could wave a wand and things appeared in their whole substance complete. He could only start an evolving creation.

    (3) The final heresies are again those condemned in the early centuries of the Church, heresies like other worlds and intelligent life living on other planets out there. Today the Catholic Church's observatories and astronomers are one of the leading organisations searching for these other worlds and aliwens. francis even said he would baptise a martian if asked to do so. This turns the dogma of Original Sin and the sacrament of Baptism into a science-fiction category.

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #7 on: February 19, 2022, 08:19:00 AM »
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  • Number one is (not the Globe but) the Father.
    Number two is the Son.
    Number three is the Holy Ghost.

    The "prophecy" does not warn about the Holy Trinity, rather it says that people will lose faith in the Holy Trinity ("lose faith in the existence of God in three hypostases").

    The "prophecy" is a hoax.

    Yes, hypostasis (not to be confused with hypothesis) refers to a PERSON of the Holy Trinity.  Thus the "hypostatic" union with regard to Our Lord is a reference to there being two natures in a single Divine Person.  He's basically saying that the world will become infidels as a consequence of science.


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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #8 on: February 19, 2022, 09:06:45 AM »
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  • hypostasis
    [hīˈpästəsəs]

    NOUN
    hypostases (noun)

    • medicine

      the accuмulation of fluid or blood in the lower parts of the body or organs under the influence of gravity, as occurs in cases of poor circulation or after death.
    • philosophy

      an underlying reality or substance, as opposed to attributes or to that which lacks substance.
    • theology

      (in Trinitarian doctrine) each of the three persons of the Trinity, as contrasted with the unity of the Godhead.

      • the single person of Christ, as contrasted with his dual human and divine nature.



    Science is definitely St. Nilus' focus. I'm reaching here, but he seems to point to the problem of the Trinity being opposed by 3 heresies (each whose underlying reality lacks substance), and each is opposed to one Person, hence the term hypostases. Like an anti-Trinity set of heresies (in science) that leads to widespread apostasy and unbelief in God.     

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #9 on: February 19, 2022, 09:30:07 AM »
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  • Another reach...  Perhaps that's why the sun danced at Fatima, Our Lady showing the reality that the earth is geocentric, not heliocentric.  And I'd agree, evolution is a direct affront to belief in God and likely one of the three hypostases.  Peopled planets could very well be the third but is it widely believed?  All three seem stupid to me, but the third is particularly nutty.    

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #10 on: February 19, 2022, 03:06:31 PM »
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  • Another reach...  Perhaps that's why the sun danced at Fatima, Our Lady showing the reality that the earth is geocentric, not heliocentric.  And I'd agree, evolution is a direct affront to belief in God and likely one of the three hypostases.  Peopled planets could very well be the third but is it widely believed?  All three seem stupid to me, but the third is particularly nutty.   

    So all the condemnations of the Church against otherr worlds and aliens were 'nutty'?

    Long forgotten now are all the other Pythagorean heresies condemned by the Fathers over the first three centuries of the Catholic Church; an era recalled and described in a new book written by Professor Alberto. A. Martinez.  In this scholarly book, Martinez tells us ‘Saint Hippolytus [170-235AD, a martyred Christian theologian] ridiculed the doctrine of infinitely many suns, moons and worlds, some inhabited.’ The Professor tells us: ‘around 260CE Pope Dionysus of Alexandria wrote a tract against the Epicureans mainly to criticize their theory that all things were composed of atoms without divine Providence.’ Martinez explains that this tract was directed against the theory that atoms clash and combine by chance ‘and thus gradually form this world and all objects in it; and more, that they construct infinite worlds.’ The study also identifies many Church Fathers who condemned the claim that there are many worlds like ours. Martinez records ‘in 384CE’ Philaster, Bishop of Brescia condemned the ‘heresy that says worlds are infinite and innumerable…whereas Scripture teaches us that it is one.’ In 402 St Jerome complained that one of the most heretical claims of all was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’ St. Augustine even composed a list of 88 such heresies; the 77th was innumerable worlds.’

    ‘Other theologians too cited this heresy for centuries. They explained the problem: “we cannot assert that there exist two or many worlds, since neither do we assert two or many Christs [the only begotten son]”’ --- Prof. A. A. Martinez.

    In 748AD Pope Zachary I declared heretical the belief that stars were suns with similar worlds like Earth around them and that on these globes are other intelligent beings. Condemnations of such antipodean heresies are to be found in many early medieval writings. In 1459 Pope Pius II rejected the doctrine ‘that God created another world than this one.’    

     In the year 1600, Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for his heresies, one of them being that there are many other worlds like ours that have life on them, intelligent-beings now called aliens. How 'nutty was that then Tradman?


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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #11 on: February 19, 2022, 04:25:12 PM »
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  • So all the condemnations of the Church against otherr worlds and aliens were 'nutty'?

    Long forgotten now are all the other Pythagorean heresies condemned by the Fathers over the first three centuries of the Catholic Church; an era recalled and described in a new book written by Professor Alberto. A. Martinez.  In this scholarly book, Martinez tells us ‘Saint Hippolytus [170-235AD, a martyred Christian theologian] ridiculed the doctrine of infinitely many suns, moons and worlds, some inhabited.’ The Professor tells us: ‘around 260CE Pope Dionysus of Alexandria wrote a tract against the Epicureans mainly to criticize their theory that all things were composed of atoms without divine Providence.’ Martinez explains that this tract was directed against the theory that atoms clash and combine by chance ‘and thus gradually form this world and all objects in it; and more, that they construct infinite worlds.’ The study also identifies many Church Fathers who condemned the claim that there are many worlds like ours. Martinez records ‘in 384CE’ Philaster, Bishop of Brescia condemned the ‘heresy that says worlds are infinite and innumerable…whereas Scripture teaches us that it is one.’ In 402 St Jerome complained that one of the most heretical claims of all was that ‘worlds are innumerable.’ St. Augustine even composed a list of 88 such heresies; the 77th was innumerable worlds.’

    ‘Other theologians too cited this heresy for centuries. They explained the problem: “we cannot assert that there exist two or many worlds, since neither do we assert two or many Christs [the only begotten son]”’ --- Prof. A. A. Martinez.

    In 748AD Pope Zachary I declared heretical the belief that stars were suns with similar worlds like Earth around them and that on these globes are other intelligent beings. Condemnations of such antipodean heresies are to be found in many early medieval writings. In 1459 Pope Pius II rejected the doctrine ‘that God created another world than this one.’   

     In the year 1600, Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for his heresies, one of them being that there are many other worlds like ours that have life on them, intelligent-beings now called aliens. How 'nutty was that then Tradman?
    How did you get what I said that backward? I said, that the ones who say that other worlds are peopled are nutty. I even listed it alongside heliocentrism and evolution as possibly one of the three hypostases destroying faith in God.  

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #12 on: February 19, 2022, 04:48:34 PM »
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  • How did you get what I said that backward? I said, that the ones who say that other worlds are peopled are nutty. I even listed it alongside heliocentrism and evolution as possibly one of the three hypostases destroying faith in God. 

    Right. Cassini misunderstood what you said.

    P.S.: Hypostases are the three persons of the Holy Trinity, or the two natures of Christ. There is no such thing as "hypostases destroying faith in God". You misunderstood the text of the "prophecy". It doesn't say that "hypostases destroy faith". It says (in other words) "people will lose faith in the triune God".

    P.P.S.: This thread is nutty, starting with a nonsensical question based on a misunderstanding of a Greek theological term.
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #13 on: February 19, 2022, 04:57:29 PM »
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  • Right. Cassini misunderstood what you said.

    P.S.: Hypostases are the three persons of the Holy Trinity, or the two natures of Christ. There is no such thing as "hypostases destroying faith in God". You misunderstood the text of the "prophecy". It doesn't say that "hypostases destroy faith". It says (in other words) "people will lose faith in the triune God".

    P.P.S.: This thread is nutty, starting with a nonsensical question based on a misunderstanding of a Greek theological term.
    The prophecy also does not come from St Nilus:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilus_of_Sinai#Prophecy_of_St._Nilus

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    Re: Prophecy about science and apostasy
    « Reply #14 on: February 19, 2022, 05:12:08 PM »
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  • The prophecy also does not come from St Nilus:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilus_of_Sinai#Prophecy_of_St._Nilus

    Yes, it's a hoax which has been spread since the early 20th century and has been debunked ever since and on many sites on the internet. Folks interested in truth need a few minutes to know this. But this is FE ghetto.
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)