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Offline Tradplorable

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Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2017, 01:01:58 PM »
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  •  By that I mean, If a priest does reject all the fact that you present to them (scripture and quotes from the faith), do you view this as a sin? The round earth is being taught in the traditional Catholic schools, are the priest and teachers who don't believe the same as you, guilty for corrupting the minds of the youth?

    I ask to understand the next step in your logic beyond the dialogue posted in this forum.
    Personally, I view it as a rejection of grace.
    Fr. Pfeiffer has been given a great grace in being presented with so much information by such wonderfully knowledgeable flat earth folks.
    So, I see it as similar to not cooperating with God's grace when He is calling someone to conversion.
    Yes, it is sad that Trad schools do not teach the Book of Genesis, but teach Copernicanism and globalism. I view that as a kind of reduced culpability on their part due to ignorance (they are brainwashed from birth like all of us were), as I myself never gave much thought to the shape until presented with the facts and a re-read of Genesis.


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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #16 on: September 08, 2017, 01:38:15 PM »
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  • Thank you for your answer Tradp.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #17 on: September 08, 2017, 01:42:16 PM »
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  • Personally, I view it as a rejection of grace.
    Fr. Pfeiffer has been given a great grace in being presented with so much information by such wonderfully knowledgeable flat earth folks.
    So, I see it as similar to not cooperating with God's grace when He is calling someone to conversion.
    Yes, it is sad that Trad schools do not teach the Book of Genesis, but teach Copernicanism and globalism. I view that as a kind of reduced culpability on their part due to ignorance (they are brainwashed from birth like all of us were), as I myself never gave much thought to the shape until presented with the facts and a re-read of Genesis.
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    How do you know of any flat-earthers who have approached Fr. Pfeiffer on that topic?
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    Do you know Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? Did you speak to him about your silly flat-earthism?
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    How "brainwashed" do you need to be to look at a full moon and see it for what it is?
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #18 on: September 08, 2017, 03:32:31 PM »
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    How do you know of any flat-earthers who have approached Fr. Pfeiffer on that topic?
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    Do you know Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? Did you speak to him about your silly flat-earthism?
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    How "brainwashed" do you need to be to look at a full moon and see it for what it is?
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    God created the flat earth.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #19 on: September 08, 2017, 05:06:07 PM »
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  • God created the flat earth.
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    I wasn't asking you. But since you replied, my response is, if God created the earth "FLAT," then what happened to it since then?
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    All you have to do is look at the full moon each month and see the earth is a globe.
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    Because (for example) if it were "flat" the moon would never appear to be FULL over the length of each meridian (north to south) all night long from pole to pole (or if you prefer, from sea to shining sea).
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    And it does so once each month, not in one place or another, but all over the earth at the same time, every time, 24/7.
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    So the earth can't be "flat" otherwise the moon would appear to be in different phases viewed from different parts of the earth every day and every night, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (and 366 in leap year).
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #20 on: September 08, 2017, 05:47:14 PM »
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    How do you know of any flat-earthers who have approached Fr. Pfeiffer on that topic?
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    Do you know Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer? Did you speak to him about your silly flat-earthism?
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    How "brainwashed" do you need to be to look at a full moon and see it for what it is?
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    He says in the video that he was approached. But as usual, you didn't watch it. So how would you know?

    Are you not doing enough for the globe earth cause by working for NASA? Why do you need to bother coming onto this forum? We're clearly not worthy.



    Eclipses neither prove nor disprove the flat earth.

    "As for whether or not I work for NASA, I'm sorry, but I fail to understand what that could possibly have to do with anything" Neil Obstat, 08-03-2017

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #21 on: September 08, 2017, 05:52:51 PM »
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  • He says in the video that he was approached. But as usual, you didn't watch it. So how would you know?

    Are you not doing enough for the globe earth cause by working for NASA? Why do you need to bother coming onto this forum? We're clearly not worthy.




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    I watched that video, and Fr. Pfeiffer is not in it nor is he mentioned. You must have the wrong video, again.
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    And furthermore, my offer is still open, which you either didn't read or didn't understand, that if you supply a transcript of this video you mistakenly posted here, I will give a line-by-line reply to it. But I'm not going to do the transcription. I'd have to charge you, and you couldn't afford it.
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    So if you're not worthy why do you bother posting? Isn't it a waste of your precious time? You could be on flat-earth-tards where you could have the whole site to your self. HAHAHAHA
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #22 on: September 08, 2017, 06:54:02 PM »
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    I wasn't asking you. But since you replied, my response is, if God created the earth "FLAT," then what happened to it since then?
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    All you have to do is look at the full moon each month and see the earth is a globe.
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    Because (for example) if it were "flat" the moon would never appear to be FULL over the length of each meridian (north to south) all night long from pole to pole (or if you prefer, from sea to shining sea).
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    And it does so once each month, not in one place or another, but all over the earth at the same time, every time, 24/7.
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    So the earth can't be "flat" otherwise the moon would appear to be in different phases viewed from different parts of the earth every day and every night, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (and 366 in leap year).
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    The earth is and has always been flat.
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 10:16:11 PM »
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  • The earth is and has always been flat.
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    All you have to do is look at the moon and see the earth is a globe.
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    On second thought, don't bother because you can't see what you're looking at.
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #24 on: September 08, 2017, 10:23:40 PM »
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  • My question is open to anyone really.  I'm not doing it to bicker, fight, or trade insults.  By now I've seen the videos, pictures and read most of the explanations.  I'm not interested in any of the diatribes. I am just trying to follow the line of logic or how if this is a matter of faith, how the contradiction is resolved personal in the faith versus the faith of the priest.

    I was interested if there were any traditional priests, regardless of affiliation of SSPX, SSPV...etc, that support these conclusion from the folks posting in this forum on this subject.  If your parish priest or overall an order comes out in against what you believe to be true, are they heretics, pagans, and masons as well.  Does this change your view of them in tradition? By that I mean, If a priest does reject all the fact that you present to them (scripture and quotes from the faith), do you view this as a sin? The round earth is being taught in the traditional Catholic schools, are the priest and teachers who don't believe the same as you, guilty for corrupting the minds of the youth?

    I ask to understand the next step in your logic beyond the dialogue posted in this forum.
    1. Please clarify "...  resolved personal in the faith versus the faith... "
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #25 on: September 08, 2017, 10:34:41 PM »
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    All you have to do is look at the moon and see the earth is a globe.
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    On second thought, don't bother because you can't see what you're looking at.
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    The moon is not a mirror of the earth. Nice try Neil; the earth is still flat.
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #26 on: September 08, 2017, 10:56:55 PM »
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  • Personally, I view it as a rejection of grace.
    Fr. Pfeiffer has been given a great grace in being presented with so much information by such wonderfully knowledgeable flat earth folks.
    So, I see it as similar to not cooperating with God's grace when He is calling someone to conversion.
    Yes, it is sad that Trad schools do not teach the Book of Genesis, but teach Copernicanism and globalism. I view that as a kind of reduced culpability on their part due to ignorance (they are brainwashed from birth like all of us were), as I myself never gave much thought to the shape until presented with the facts and a re-read of Genesis.
    The thickness of pride and arrogance.  You can't name one traditional priest or bishop who insists the earth is flat.  But you know better than all of them, and recognize that they're rejecting grace, based largely on your protestant private interpretation.

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #27 on: September 08, 2017, 11:28:48 PM »
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  • The thickness of pride and arrogance.  You can't name one traditional priest or bishop who insists the earth is flat.  But you know better than all of them, and recognize that they're rejecting grace, based largely on your protestant private interpretation.
    If a Priest, who has continually been shown the Flat Earth Horizon by someone who knows the earth is flat, still persists in the rejection of THE FLAT EARTH HORIZON HE CLEARLY SEES, HE IS CLEARLY REJECTING GOD'S GRACE ON THIS ISSUE.

    ACCEPTING THE GRACE GOD HAS GIVEN ME TO SEE THE EARTH IS FLAT, IS NOT PRIDE AND ARROGANCE, BUT, WISDOM.
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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #28 on: September 08, 2017, 11:29:23 PM »
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  • The thickness of pride and arrogance.  You can't name one traditional priest or bishop who insists the earth is flat.  But you know better than all of them, and recognize that they're rejecting grace, based largely on your protestant private interpretation.
    Absent or insufficient motives of credibility = "rejection of grace"
    Uh huh...
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Proof earth is NOT a ball from the ISS
    « Reply #29 on: September 08, 2017, 11:48:32 PM »
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  • 1. Please clarify "...  resolved personal in the faith versus the faith... "
    DZ P,

    I'm sorry, I should have reread my words before posting.

    "how if this is a matter of faith, how the contradiction is resolved personal in the faith versus the faith of the priest."

    Attempt to clarify:

    From all the threads on this forum, this seems to boil down to a matter of faith and Catholic truth. Believing in the modern globe makes you at the very least, someone who has willfully and selectively rejected certain teachings of the Catholic Church.. and at the worst, a pagan, Jєω, freemason. Do you question the faith and morals of the traditional priests? Do you call them the same names the members of this forum have been called, when they reject flat earth after being presented this information? There seems to be a moral conflict there. If the priest utterly reject flat earth would that make him a bad Catholic heretic believing in a freemasonic globe? Do you still receive sacraments from such a man. I wanted to be able to follow their logic and know how they personally resolved this contradiction.