I don't think that either side can really be proven, but we can still debate and respect the opinion of others. After all, the Church has not ruled on the subject.

I think that the earth is a sphere can be proven in numerous undeniable ways. As for respecting the opinion of those who hold that the earth is flat, one can respect the person, but not the error.

Since many of the commentators on this topic (seemingly) lack the pre-requisite training (formal or otherwise) necessary to discuss the scientific intricacies and complexities intrinsically associated with the subject matter, it is unlikely to be resolved definitively one way or another to everyone’s satisfaction.

The lack of individual thorough scientific knowledge will naturally lead to technical misunderstandings, jargonistic exploitations, sophistry, and confusion by those more versed on the issue.

This^^^

Classic pseudo-intellectual douche-baggery, bro.

Are you a cosmologist, astrophysicist, etc?  Nope.  I don't care, but you apparently believe we should.

Neither. I am but a lowly and humble Chemist who had some formal educational experience in Physics with a minor in pseudo-intellectual “douche baggery.”

I think that the earth is a sphere can be proven in numerous undeniable ways. As for respecting the opinion of those who hold that the earth is flat, one can respect the person, but not the error.

Yes, it COULD be proven in undeniable ways.  But it hasn’t been.  Why?  This is part of the equation, the massive amounts of lies and fraud and dishonesty coming from the globe earth quarters.  There’s CLEARLY a psychological and emotional attachment here to the globe shape of the earth.  That too is part of the equation.

If the globers had objectively undeniable proof and could present it impassionately, they might actually be persuasive.  But we get nothing but attacks and insults from you.

You’re clearly not interested in the truth ... unless it’s the truth you want to believe.  That is obvious to all of us FEs and hurts your cause.

Then many of the things you claim as proofs are either hoaxes and frauds.  Why?  And most of what’s left is not actually proof ... but you all accept them as such because you want to.  It’s your confirmation bias calling things proof when they are not proofs and sometimes even hoaxes.

Your petty childish petulant arrogant promotion of your position actually hurts your cause to those of us trying to find the truth, whatever that might be.

That one leading FE says he was largely persuaded of FE due to the globers’ dishonesty and lies.

Dankward and Marion have presented one lame “proof” after another that’s easily debunked, hoping that if they throw enough excrement at the wall, some of it might stick.  And they regularly hurl insults and personal attacks against the FE folks.

You disqualify yourselves from any rational debate about this question and due to your obvious childish emotional attachment to ball earth, you’ll largely be ignored.

You've joined the discussion late and these are already thoroughly debunked.  "Gravity" is unproven, and whether you should be able to see polaris depends on how far polaris actually is from the earth.

We're allegedly hurtling through space at several million miles per hour, and yet Polaris hasn't moved an inch in centuries and all the other stars move around it.  Earth (allegedly) rotates at 1,000 MPH (at the equator), the it's moving 66,600 MPH around the sun.  Our Solar System is moving at about 450,000 MPH around our galaxy, ad the galaxy itself is moving 1.3 million MPH through the universe.  Yet the positions of the stars haven't changed for centuries.

Equally absurd is the notion that we've seen the same face of the moon for centuries.  Its rotation would have to be synchronized with its revolution around the earth to the second.  If it were even a second off, it would change over the course of years and decades.  And this as scientists allege that it's moving away from the earth ... which means that it would have to slightly speed up its rotation even as it drifts away.

Then the moon just so happens to be 400x smaller and at the same time 400x closer than the sun, allowing for eclipses as we experience them.

To which Jupiter (nice pagan god name, BTW) responded:

The scientific evidence for gravity is so overwhelming that to deny it is to deny the possibility of any kind of scientific knowledge.

As for the rest of your post, it suffices to say that you are arguing from a “sense” perspective which is worthless in this discussion.

Basically, I could rephrase his response thusly:

The theory of Gravity is totally true because it has to be, I said so, etc.
Your arguments are invalid.

Notably absent from Jupiter's response:
Why Polaris doesn't move, even over the centuries, when it should be moving over months and years AT LEAST.
Why the cosmic coincidences exist, impossible but there they are. The moon is exactly the right distance to "appear" the same size as the sun.
The moon orbits the earth perfectly timed down to the SECOND, such that it doesn't drift even by 1 second over the years and centuries. If it did, we'd see new parts of the moon over time.
The moon is moving further away from the earth, but somehow is picking up more orbital speed to make up for it. Because again, we don't observe ANY drift in what part of the moon we can see. Don't we have high-resolution telescopes that could pick up the smallest amount of "dark side" becoming part of the "light side"?

Crickets.

Yes, it COULD be proven in undeniable ways.  But it hasn’t been.  Why?  This is part of the equation, the massive amounts of lies and fraud and dishonesty coming from the globe earth quarters.  There’s CLEARLY a psychological and emotional attachment here to the globe shape of the earth.  That too is part of the equation.

If the globers had objectively undeniable proof and could present it impassionately, they might actually be persuasive.  But we get nothing but attacks and insults from you.

You’re clearly not interested in the truth ... unless it’s the truth you want to believe.  That is obvious to all of us FEs and hurts your cause.

Then many of the things you claim as proofs are either hoaxes and frauds.  Why?  And most of what’s left is not actually proof ... but you all accept them as such because you want to.  It’s your confirmation bias calling things proof when they are not proofs and sometimes even hoaxes.

Your petty childish petulant arrogant promotion of your position actually hurts your cause to those of us trying to find the truth, whatever that might be.

That one leading FE says he was largely persuaded of FE due to the globers’ dishonesty and lies.

Dankward and Marion have presented one lame “proof” after another that’s easily debunked, hoping that if they throw enough excrement at the wall, some of it might stick.  And they regularly hurl insults and personal attacks against the FE folks.

You disqualify yourselves from any rational debate about this question and due to your obvious childish emotional attachment to ball earth, you’ll largely be ignored.

It has been proven quite clearly on a number of occasions by more than one member here, but you refuse to accept any rational argument because your psychological projection is, ironically, indicative of the deeper issues that this topic means for you and the other gentlemen in this discussion. Your attachment is not to a “flat” earth, it’s to something much more interesting. I’ve already analyzed this feature of many individuals who hold to this absurd theory at an earlier post so I won’t bother to repeat it entirely.

You are clearly bothered by what you perceive to be personal attacks and insults yet you and your fellow supporters engage in the same manner of debate.

You have presented nothing worthy of note and you continue to engage in ever more skeptical attacks on everything foundational to modern science because you reject much more than a spherical earth. You reject the modern world. I’ve looked at your posting history and everything about you seems to confirm this observation.

Since you seemingly reject the entire scientific corpus and instead choose to hypothesize your way into a Laudislausian individualism in which your subjective perspectives are the rule from which you extrapolate your conclusions, arguments presented to you will require building a foundational ground that takes much time to cultivate and communicate. Let it be so.

It has been proven quite clearly on a number of occasions by more than one member here, but you refuse to accept any rational argument because your psychological projection is, ironically, indicative of the deeper issues that this topic means for you and the other gentlemen in this discussion. Your attachment is not to a “flat” earth, it’s to something much more interesting. I’ve already analyzed this feature of many individuals who hold to this absurd theory at an earlier post so I won’t bother to repeat it entirely.

You are clearly bothered by what you perceive to be personal attacks and insults yet you and your fellow supporters engage in the same manner of debate.

You have presented nothing worthy of note and you continue to engage in ever more skeptical attacks on everything foundational to modern science because you reject much more than a spherical earth. You reject the modern world. I’ve looked at your posting history and everything about you seems to confirm this observation.

Since you seemingly reject the entire scientific corpus and instead choose to hypothesize your way into a Laudislausian individualism in which your subjective perspectives are the rule from which you extrapolate your conclusions, arguments presented to you will require building a foundational ground that takes much time to cultivate and communicate. Let it be so.

Flat earthers are never concerned about attacks on their person. They know all sciences, math, scripture, saints and reason prove earth is not a globe. The "body of evidence" for the globe is dead. Every bit of it is a contradiction.  It is also because globe earthers refuse to discuss the elephant in the room, that round earth is a contradiction and makes no sense, is promoted by pagan globalists for profit and control, that flat earthers will continue to deny it.    

Not far enough away to explain why it hasn't moved an inch as we travel at 2 million MPH through the universe.  At that rate, our angle to it would change enough to prevent it from being locked in above the north rotational axis.

Airy's "Failure" proved that the earth does not move but that the stars move in relation to the earth.

Modern science also claims the earth is moving 4 different ways simultaneously.  Supposedly earth is orbiting, rotating, exploding outward from the Big Bang, and wobbling on it's axis.  That Polaris could remain stationary in relation to earth with all that movement is beyond ridiculous.