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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2022, 10:07:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on February 01, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
    Modern science also claims the earth is moving 4 different ways simultaneously.  Supposedly earth is orbiting, rotating, exploding outward from the Big Bang, and wobbling on it's axis.  That Polaris could remain stationary in relation to earth with all that movement is beyond ridiculous.

    Right, and somehow with all this movement ... everything stays on the same plane as we hurtle through the universe.  If there were even a bit of an angle tilt, not just to the earth, but to the solar system or to the galaxy, or anything, that would cause the position of Polaris to shift.  I find that absurd.  We've have to remain on the SAME PLANE with no change of angle in relation to Polaris.  How is that not ludicrous?
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #76 on: February 01, 2022, 10:51:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 01, 2022, 10:07:51 AM
    Right, and somehow with all this movement ... everything stays on the same plane as we hurtle through the universe.  If there were even a bit of an angle tilt, not just to the earth, but to the solar system or to the galaxy, or anything, that would cause the position of Polaris to shift.  I find that absurd.  We've have to remain on the SAME PLANE with no change of angle in relation to Polaris.  How is that not ludicrous?
    The more ludicrous the concept, the more globers attempt to manufacture ways to shore up the narrative. I have yet to see any explanation whatsoever for Polaris remaining stationary while earth is pirouetting around in space like a whirling dervish. I can't even imagine what they might come up with but it's got to be a doozy.  
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #77 on: February 01, 2022, 11:12:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on February 01, 2022, 10:51:35 AM
    The more ludicrous the concept, the more globers attempt to manufacture ways to shore up the narrative. I have yet to see any explanation whatsoever for Polaris remaining stationary while earth is pirouetting around in space like a whirling dervish. I can't even imagine what they might come up with but it's got to be a doozy. 

    1. Two words: Occam's Razor.
    2. For someone determined to believe, any lame explanation will do.

    It's a sad fact of human nature.

    Picture a cult with 100% white people. The cult leader is black. One of the cult members, a white woman (married to a white man) gives birth to a Mulatto baby.

    The cult leader exclaims "It's a miracle!" and the whole cult believes him -- rather than the much more obvious and simpler explanation: the woman committed adultery with the cult leader.

    Believe it or not, this scenario is EMINENTLY realistic, based on countless anecdotes and evidence from human history. Once people are brainwashed, they will believe LITERALLY ANYTHING from their masters -- even facts that contradict what they were taught BY THAT SAME MASTER the day before! It sounds crazy, but it's absolutely true. Orwell understood this, and put it into 1984. For example, that one dramatic scene I'm fond of quoting.

    P.S. For the nerds out there, this very thing happened in an episode of DS9. There was a Cardassian cult leader, Bajoran cult members, and one of the Bajoran women gave birth to a Cardiassian-Bajoran hybrid baby. The cult leader said it was a sign, a miracle.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #78 on: February 01, 2022, 11:30:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 01, 2022, 11:12:26 AM
    1. Two words: Occam's Razor.
    2. For someone determined to believe, any lame explanation will do.

    It's a sad fact of human nature.

    Picture a cult with 100% white people. The cult leader is black. One of the cult members, a white woman (married to a white man) gives birth to a Mulatto baby.

    The cult leader exclaims "It's a miracle!" and the whole cult believes him -- rather than the much more obvious and simpler explanation: the woman committed adultery with the cult leader.

    Believe it or not, this scenario is EMINENTLY realistic, based on countless anecdotes and evidence from human history. Once people are brainwashed, they will believe LITERALLY ANYTHING from their masters -- even facts that contradict what they were taught BY THAT SAME MASTER the day before! It sounds crazy, but it's absolutely true. Orwell understood this, and put it into 1984. For example, that one dramatic scene I'm fond of quoting.

    P.S. For the nerds out there, this very thing happened in an episode of DS9. There was a Cardassian cult leader, Bajoran cult members, and one of the Bajoran women gave birth to a Cardiassian-Bajoran hybrid baby. The cult leader said it was a sign, a miracle.
    Yea, we were warned:

    2 Timothy 4:3-4
    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accuмulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #79 on: February 01, 2022, 01:40:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jupiter on January 31, 2022, 03:17:07 PM
    I love you too.

    See, you CAN use words with only ONE syllable.  Try it more often.

    Godspeed, my friend.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #80 on: February 01, 2022, 01:43:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jupiter on January 31, 2022, 03:19:07 PM
    I am but a lowly and humble Chemist who had some formal educational experience in Physics with a minor in pseudo-intellectual “douche baggery.”

    Magna cuм laude within your minor?  Totally kidding, bro.  
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #81 on: February 01, 2022, 01:49:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jupiter on February 01, 2022, 08:25:18 AM
    “Polaris is very distant from Earth, and located in a position very near Earth's north celestial pole.

    https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/skytellers/polaris/

    Globe vs. FE aside, do you subscribe to geo-centrism, or something demonstrably heretical?
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #82 on: February 01, 2022, 04:51:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Tradman on February 01, 2022, 11:30:36 AM
    Yea, we were warned:

    2 Timothy 4:3-4
    For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accuмulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

    I agree with you about the appropriateness of the quote --

    But DOUAY RHEIMS, please.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #83 on: February 01, 2022, 05:11:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 28, 2022, 10:19:58 AM
    I trust MY OWN SENSES.
    You should trust your own senses and watch this video. This completely contradicts the flat-earth model. The objection by flat-earthers that the sun is "disappearing into the distance" is absurd. It then becomes globers trusting their senses, while flat-earthers have to come up with strange theories to explain how the Sun is not going BELOW the horizon. If the Sun was simply going further away, it would be shrinking and getting closer to the horizon, but never going under it.



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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #84 on: February 01, 2022, 05:56:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: augustineeens on February 01, 2022, 05:11:57 PM
    If the Sun was simply going further away, it would be shrinking and getting closer to the horizon, but never going under it.

    False.  When it gets far enough away it appears to descend into the horizon.  And the size of the sun indicates some kind of atmospheric magnification  There are plenty of videos that show the exact opposite, with the sun shrinking to a very small size (which shouldn't happen when it's 93 million miles away) and also where you zoom in and you CAN see that it's still above the horizon.  And one video that show the sun appearing to be cut in half and then when zoomed in suddenly is still above the horizon ... debunks your assertion that this cannot be the result of perspective and line of sight.

    See this is the problem with you globers.  You find a video that appears to back your preconceive idea and then you cling to it through confirmation bias.  You ignore the videos that show the opposite.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #85 on: February 01, 2022, 05:58:22 PM »
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    • Flat Earthers can demonstrate (with examples) where the sun CAN appear to be cut in half by the horizon while it's really still above it.

    Can Globe Earthers explain why in many videos the sun shrinks?  Atmospheric moisture is not known to shrink objects, but rather to magnify them.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #86 on: February 01, 2022, 06:07:45 PM »
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    • Here's one where the sun appears to shrink and then fade away into the horizon.


    Then there's this one:
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #87 on: February 01, 2022, 06:28:20 PM »
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    • Here are some great pictures similar to Matthew's.  In some of these, you can see the rays touching down on the water, showing that they go in all directions around the axis just below the sun, and are not merely the effect of perspective coming TOWARD you.  Some of these are moving the OTHER way.

    https://flatearthscienceandbible.wordpress.com/2016/02/13/visual-proof-of-the-close-flat-earth-sun-nasa-is-lying/





    These are radiating through the clouds and outward from the central axis whereas they should just all go straight down.
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #88 on: February 01, 2022, 06:40:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 01, 2022, 06:28:20 PM
    These are radiating through the clouds and outward from the central axis whereas they should just all go straight down.


    No, they shouldn't. Neither in a flat earth model where the sun is thousands of miles away, nor in a globe earth model where the sun is millions of miles away. See Replys #2 and #10 (both on page 1).
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    Re: Photo I took tends to prove Flat Earth
    « Reply #89 on: February 01, 2022, 06:44:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 01, 2022, 06:07:45 PM
    Here's one where the sun appears to shrink and then fade away into the horizon.

    That is clearly being blocked out by dense cloud. And the camera is very low quality compared to the camera in the video I sent. Find a video like that on a clear night with a high quality camera and I will reassess your point.

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