Look at 1:05 - 1:18 in the video.  How is that possible if the sun 93 million miles away and the sun's rays are coming to earth parallel?

Agreed that this is an interesting observation, however, in order for it to be proof, you need more than one spot to triangulate it. Maybe it is more like a reflection?
Some pro flat earth arguments are very compelling. But, I wouldn't call the images in this thread, "proof".

Really the way it must be approached to take an objective view of the matter ... is to disregard anything we think we know about "space" and the "planets".  Given the fact that NASA and the other space agencies have been exposed as perpetrating one hoax and fraud after another, I simply cannot accept anything they have to offer as any kind of "evidence".  Could SOME of what they claim be true?  Certainly.  But what is true and what isn't I cannot say.  They have no credibility and no "authority" whatsoever with regard to these questions.

Take that off the table, our perception of space and the solar system and planets, and now, from a terrestrial perspective, attempt to demonstrate whether the earth is a globe or whether it's flat.

I think that the resurgence of people promoting a marginally obscure and provably false hypothesis such as “Flat Earth” is primarily an anthropological and sociological phenomenon completely unrelated to scientific endeavors or even the desire for knowledge and truth.

This is a reactionary movement that seeks to reject the modern world and all its pomps by attacking the foundational support for its existence i.e empiricism and the scientific method; instead promoting personal observation and data interpretation due to a fundamental distrust of science and scientists as a whole.

Moreover, there seems to be an implied philosophy of understanding that posits a posture in which anything accepted “mainstream” must be false and a conspiratorial cover up designed to delude the poor saps who are gullible enough to swallow the narrative whole. This defensive response is based on the issues inherent with modernity as well as individual experience of it due to the proliferation of scientific theories at odds with traditional social and religious understandings. The movement then seeks to separate itself as a different, and indeed superior breed of person, who questions anything and everything regardless of individual competence to assess the topic at hand.

The movement is socially reactionary and aggressively militant in its presuppositions because there is much more at stake than if the earth is flat for these people, rather if I accept this then I accept my biggest enemy; the modern world.

I think that the resurgence of people promoting a marginally obscure and provably false hypothesis such as “Flat Earth” is primarily an anthropological and sociological phenomenon completely unrelated to scientific endeavors or even the desire for knowledge and truth.

This is a reactionary movement that seeks to reject the modern world and all its pomps by attacking the foundational support for its existence i.e empiricism and the scientific method; instead promoting personal observation and data interpretation due to a fundamental distrust of science and scientists as a whole.

Moreover, there seems to be an implied philosophy of understanding that posits a posture in which anything accepted “mainstream” must be false and a conspiratorial cover up designed to delude the poor saps who are gullible enough to swallow the narrative whole. This defensive response is based on the issues inherent with modernity as well as individual experience of it due to the proliferation of scientific theories at odds with traditional social and religious understandings. The movement then seeks to separate itself as a different, and indeed superior breed of person, who questions anything and everything regardless of individual competence to assess the topic at hand.

The movement is socially reactionary and aggressively militant in its presuppositions because there is much more at stake than if the earth is flat for these people, rather if I accept this then I accept my biggest enemy; the modern world.

Wow, this is a fascinating post. Very insightful, and I agree with every word of it. I hope you stick around here for a while at least, my friend!

I think that the resurgence of people promoting a marginally obscure and provably false hypothesis such as “Flat Earth” is primarily an anthropological and sociological phenomenon completely unrelated to scientific endeavors or even the desire for knowledge and truth.

This is a reactionary movement that seeks to reject the modern world and all its pomps by attacking the foundational support for its existence i.e empiricism and the scientific method; instead promoting personal observation and data interpretation due to a fundamental distrust of science and scientists as a whole.

I disagree.  It has more to do with the fact that people have access to equipment (in particular the Nikon P900 camera) that allowed them to do investigations on their own.  Certainly it doesn't help the situation that NASA has been caught repeatedly faking things.  So that makes them entirely suspect on everything.  They can no longer be trusted as an authority on the matter.  Remove the authority of NASA and the space agencies, and what do you have in terms of proof that the earth is a globe?  Precious little.

Many of the Flat Earthers started off with realizing that the moon landings were a hoax.  As they were exposing the hoax, they found more and more other kinds of fakery being perpetrated by the space agencies.  Some of them in fact started out looking at the Flat Earth question thinking it was a psyop to discredit those who came to realize the moon landing hoax.  Most FEs when they first started looking into the question were incredibly skeptical and thought the notion was stupid.

People were skeptical of Youtube videos, and rightly so, so many of them performed the experiments themselves, with modern equipment that had become accessible and affordable, and had the same results.

So, no, you're way off base.

It seems to me, that here on CI, people who don't feel themselves safe to judge that the "pope" is a heretic and therefore not a Catholic, and therefore lost office (or didn't have any such thing to lose in the first place), or don't feel themselves safe to judge that they have to shun heretics as well as supporters of heretics, use FE as an outlet, as a valve, since FE is a topic where they're allowed to freely speculate.

Is there anyone here on CI, who defends FE and is decidedly shunning communicatio in sacris with all Novus Ordo hierarchy and disciples?


P.S.: I'm not saying that this concerns all non-sedes.

I'm a proponent of FE and I believe it to be morally certain that Jorge Beroglio is not the Pope, and hold it certain that the Conciliar Church is not the Catholic Church.  But I disagree with your position regarding communicatio in sacris and with regard to dogmatic sedevacantism.  Even the Dimonds don't accept your communicatio in sacris position.

Funny that I've noticed the opposite.  SVs tend to be most hostile against FE.

FE and SVism are entirely unrelated.

I think that the resurgence of people promoting a marginally obscure and provably false hypothesis such as “Flat Earth” is primarily an anthropological and sociological phenomenon completely unrelated to scientific endeavors or even the desire for knowledge and truth.

Nice theory, but you're wrong.

It has nothing to do with the world, my feelings, my needs, or my tendencies. It has EVERYTHING to do with the truth. What is the TRUTH -- that is what I want.

All the data, the pieces of evidence, support the Flat Earth hypothesis. All Globe Earth has for support is the space agencies, which are SERIAL LIARS. Sorry, can't trust them. Never trust a compulsive liar.

All the evidence of a down-to-earth man standing on earth points to Flat Earth as well. We're supposed to be moving through the near-infinite Universe about 4 different ways. (The galaxy is moving, the sun is moving, the earth is moving, and the earth is spinning). And then you have photos of perfectly still lakes with crystal clear water, reflecting the beautiful scenery above it like a man-made mirror. NO distortion. Not a single ripple.

Sorry, I don't buy nonsense. Not about the nature of the earth, COVID, 9/11, the holo___, the JQ, or anything else.