[MyrnaM]

Yes, it does.
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You were given them and you scoffed.

If converting us is so important to you then post them again for the new lurkers if not us who apparently missed them.

[DZ PLEASE]

Who needs a pope when you can just say "how it is"?

FEism, the one un-true faith.

[St Ignatius]

I do as as well even though "my" monks were, by and large, "Mertonian" Buddhists by the time I got there, which explains why I didn't stay there.

Hippies in habits...sheesh.

Time to flee to the forests and mountains with the "Rule" in hand, and start over...

St Benedict, pray for us.

[DZ PLEASE]

Time to flee to the forests and mountains with the "Rule" in hand, and start over...

St Benedict, pray for us.

IF my mother passes before I do, that's exactly what I intend to do. Another danger of assuming with absolute certainty that this is the end, is what if it isn't? What if nobody bothers to preserve things and we're wrong, and it's just the end of civilization and not the world? (granted, if civilization weren't defined by cities existing I'd say it was already gone but... sidetrack)

Ora pro indeed.

[St Ignatius]

IF my mother passes before I do, that's exactly what I intend to do.

Ora pro indeed.

I'll pray for your intention, it's indeed a noble one. 

I had my chance, but along came a woman with a different idea...

[DZ PLEASE]

I'll pray for your intention, it's indeed a noble one.

I had my chance, but along came a woman with a different idea...

Thanks. I may be married too, which is why I'm not doing it again. The pitfalls of a sinful life. 

[Carissima]

..The Bible says nothing of the shape of the Earth. No they have not. Verses describing firmaments etc... do not tell me the Earth is flat.

'Four Corners'...does that tell you Earth is a ball? Is there some translation that tells you that 'corners' are something other than what we understand them to be?

I've seen those darn mental gymnastics again in trying to degrade the terms used in Scripture to fit the false globe earth. The deception is diabolic. 

[DZ PLEASE]

'Four Corners'...does that tell you Earth is a ball? Is there some translation that tells you that 'corners' are something other than what we understand them to be?

I've seen those darn mental gymnastics again in trying to degrade the terms used in Scripture to fit the false globe earth. The deception is diabolic.

Then the next time that you sin with your eye, literally pluck it out, and no scooping, no scalpels or the like either; you have to pluck it. 

[Tradplorable]

The only thing FEers have is the firmament and that can be explained in a Globe Earth scenario as well.

No, you were given a long list of passages.

[DZ PLEASE]

Everyone take a step back a bit, and ask yourselves "Essentially, what prompted prompted the production of this thread?

I'll give you a hint; it the same thing underlying the thinking of CI Prostratants.

[Tradplorable]

If converting us is so important to you then post them again for the new lurkers if not us who apparently missed them.

I'll be happy to start a new thread.

[DZ PLEASE]

I'll be happy to start a new thread.

Perhaps as you now have a "room of your own", you could sticky basic refs to save time and effort later. Make a point of consolidation. 

[Truth is Eternal]

Ah, so now you implicitly claim that the Bible contradicts itself (unless you are ignorant of Scripture, in which case you should not use it to prove points). You say the Earth literally has four corners because of your interpretation of Scripture. Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the Earth".  Now whether one thinks this translation should read circle, round, around etc... the Latin word "gyrum" definitely does not mean any shape with corners.
Does the Bible contradict itself? Are the meaning of these passages literal or allegorical, metaphorical, etc...?

Also, great point DZ.

The earth is the earth. The globe of the earth is the firmament dome of creation which surrounds the earth. 

[DZ PLEASE]

Ah, so now you implicitly claim that the Bible contradicts itself (unless you are ignorant of Scripture, in which case you should not use it to prove points). You say the Earth literally has four corners because of your interpretation of Scripture. Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the globe of the Earth".  Now whether one thinks this translation should read circle, round, around etc... the Latin word "gyrum" definitely does not mean any shape with corners.
Does the Bible contradict itself? Are the meaning of these passages literal or allegorical, metaphorical, etc...?

Also, great point DZ.

Great counter-example.

[DZ PLEASE]

Wow, we now actually have a situation where people are figuratively and literally racing around a globe looking for a corner to conduct a pissing contest.  ???