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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2023, 04:57:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Always on July 07, 2023, 04:34:29 PM
    Even if one has a bias (as most of us have various biases) that does not, in and of itself, render a person incapable of treating a subject in an impartial and just manner.  If it did it, for example, it would often render jury selection a complete exercise in futility.

    I, for example, have a bias against Jews.  I can honestly state, however, that bias would not render me incapable of being an impartial juror in a criminal case where the one being charged was Jєωιѕн.

    That analogy fails.  You can have a bias about a subject in one respect but be able to evaluate it in another.  Dr. Sungenis' bias was directly about the very subject he was addressing in the same respect.
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    Offline Always

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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #106 on: July 07, 2023, 05:09:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on July 07, 2023, 04:57:31 PM
    That analogy fails.  You can have a bias about a subject in one respect but be able to evaluate it in another.  Dr. Sungenis' bias was directly about the very subject he was addressing in the same respect.
    Many flat earthers at one time were globe earthers and had a distinct bias against flat earth.  Yet in spite of their distinct bias against flat earth they ended up becoming flat earthers!
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    Offline Meg

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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #107 on: July 07, 2023, 05:47:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Always on July 07, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
    Many flat earthers at one time were globe earthers and had a distinct bias against flat earth.  Yet in spite of their distinct bias against flat earth they ended up becoming flat earthers!

    I never had a bias against FE, even when I believed in a globe earth. I just never gave it much thought, until a forum member brought the subject up on another trad form.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #108 on: July 07, 2023, 06:00:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 07, 2023, 05:47:25 PM
    I never had a bias against FE, even when I believed in a globe earth. I just never gave it much thought, until a forum member brought the subject up on another trad form.

    My path to FE was similar.  Godspeed, Meg :)
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #109 on: July 07, 2023, 06:11:05 PM »
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    • Pretty much sums me up as well.  Was never really on the radar.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #110 on: July 07, 2023, 09:36:15 PM »
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    • I think I used to be a Flat Earther up until the age of about 7 or so when I noticed this globe up in the classroom.  Then after the good sister or someone told me what it was I gradually (or suddenly?) became a Globe Earther.  How could that person have been so shameful to start brainwashing me like that?!  Imagine --  such dreadful intellectual child abuse at such a young age!
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #111 on: July 07, 2023, 10:40:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Always on July 07, 2023, 09:36:15 PM
    I think I used to be a Flat Earther up until the age of about 7 or so when I noticed this globe up in the classroom.  Then after the good sister or someone told me what it was I gradually (or suddenly?) became a Globe Earther.  How could that person have been so shameful to start brainwashing me like that?!  Imagine --  such dreadful intellectual child abuse at such a young age!

    Is anyone supposed to take anything you say seriously?

    Always what? 

    Always gαy?  Always full of shit?  Always brainless, meaningless commentary meant to derail profitable discussion?
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #112 on: July 07, 2023, 11:42:13 PM »
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    • Always what?  This seems to be the best answer:

    https://www.always.com/en-us/shop-products/menstrual-pads#sort=asc(title)
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #113 on: July 08, 2023, 12:20:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on July 07, 2023, 10:40:47 PM
    Is anyone supposed to take anything you say seriously?

    Always what?

    Always gαy?  Always full of shit?  Always brainless, meaningless commentary meant to derail profitable discussion?

    Hey, did you forget to call me a SOB, like you called Mark 79 earlier today?  Sorry, my sense of humor got you so triggered.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #114 on: July 08, 2023, 12:21:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on July 07, 2023, 11:42:13 PM
    Always what?  This seems to be the best answer:

    https://www.always.com/en-us/shop-products/menstrual-pads#sort=asc(title)

    Wow, you're really on a roll funny man.  (Or is it a bender?)  
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #115 on: July 08, 2023, 12:24:32 AM »
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    • Is the Sun not going West all the time? If it is, how does it come back to positions where it was before?

    If it's not going West all the time, why does it set in the West every day?
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #116 on: July 08, 2023, 12:40:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Always on July 08, 2023, 12:20:10 AM
    Hey, did you forget to call me a SOB, like you called Mark 79 earlier today? 
     
    No need.  I destroyed you so completely with this...

    https://www.always.com/en-us/shop-products/menstrual-pads#sort=asc(title)

    ...that you would be wise to just shut your mouth and remain in the kiddie pool.  Venture into the arena and I will mercilessly smash you.  I would rather not, but that is your choice.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #117 on: July 08, 2023, 12:47:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: Donachie on July 08, 2023, 12:24:32 AM
    Is the Sun not going West all the time?

    Nope.  You clearly have yet to study the ideas of those with whom you disagree and ignorantly mock.  Not surprised.

    The sun (no need to capitalize) is local and moves in a circle within the (dome of the) firmament.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #118 on: July 08, 2023, 12:52:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Always on July 08, 2023, 12:21:27 AM
    Wow, you're really on a roll funny man.  (Or is it a bender?) 

    It is a roll, like unto a steam-roller, and that sound is your weak, soy-boy bones crunching underneath an onslaught to which you have no answer at all.
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    Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
    « Reply #119 on: July 08, 2023, 12:59:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: gladius_veritatis on July 08, 2023, 12:47:48 AM
    Nope.  You clearly have yet to study the ideas of those with whom you disagree and ignorantly mock.  Not surprised.

    The sun (no need to capitalize) is local and moves in a circle within the (dome of the) firmament.
    I don't think I've said anything to mock flat earthism, but if the Sun is not going West all the time, still that direction that is West and to the West exists. Since the Sun does have a specific and general motion, what is the difference between its motion and the West? In what other direction does its motion increase?
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