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Author Topic: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis  (Read 77959 times)

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Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2019, 09:47:36 AM »
It could certainly be argued that public schools like broken clocks are correct twice a day.
Columbus confirmed a well-known and widely accepted belief. When public schools teach that Columbus proved the world was round, it is too misleading to refer to it as correct.  It was not an idea that needing proving since it has already been accepted by all educated Catholic for centuries.  

Typically public schools spread the myth that the stupid, flat-earth believing Catholics, due to their religious indoctrination and fear of tyrannical authorities, resisted the insight of clever Columbus that the world is round until he proved it with his journey.  Sometimes the explicitly anti-Catholic parts of this myth are not stated, but they are the underlying assumption to claiming that Columbus proved the world is round.

Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2019, 11:03:22 AM »
Another example of anti-Catholic myths likely to be spread in public schools is "poor persecuted Galileo".  Students may end up being taught that Galileo was a brave and brilliant man who resisted against the superstitious tyranny of the Catholic Church.  

As most of us know, Galileo was unable to get enough science evidence to back up his theory, so he tried using his connections in the Church to get support for it on theological grounds. The Church authorities, however, did not cooperate with his attempt to manipulate them.  They also rightly punished him for making personal interpretations of Scripture, though quite mildly considering the seriousness of the offense.


Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2019, 12:05:15 PM »
Another example of anti-Catholic myths likely to be spread in public schools is "poor persecuted Galileo".  Students may end up being taught that Galileo was a brave and brilliant man who resisted against the superstitious tyranny of the Catholic Church.  

As most of us know, Galileo was unable to get enough science evidence to back up his theory, so he tried using his connections in the Church to get support for it on theological grounds. The Church authorities, however, did not cooperate with his attempt to manipulate them.  They also rightly punished him for making personal interpretations of Scripture, though quite mildly considering the seriousness of the offense.
The book which is considered anathema by public schools and even many Catholic schools:

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Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2023, 08:59:53 AM »
So Meg, it is a long story, this atheistic reinterpreting of Scripture, and the hiding of those long forgotten heresies. In 1741 it all began but was finalised in 1820. They said the 1616 decree finding heliocentrism was heresy was infallible, but it applied to a VIOLENT HELIOCENTRISM. The heliocentrism allowed by Pope Pius VII was a NON-VIOLENT heliocentrism "held by modern astronomers.' So, in other words, the heresy of 1616 is still on the books, but the non violent SCIENCE is allowed. In fact the heresy had nothing to do with the earth, moving violently or not, it was to say that the sun is fixed in order to allow the Earth to orbit it. So in fact what the popes in 1820-1835 allowed the flock to believe was formally heretical.
Great post. I have not read the docuмents in question but if the Popes allowed the faithful to believe heresy how does this impact indefectibility? I am going to assume they didn't teach it in their authority, but rather stood by and allowed it. Is represent the actual situation? Also how should this be viewed when considering that Honorius was condemned for not standing up for the faith?

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Re: New Geocentrism Book by Robert Sungenis
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2023, 09:14:25 AM »
Now read the authority of this decree by a Catholic priest who was a heliocentrist.

http://www.ldolphin.org/geocentricity/Roberts.pdf

The docuмent is 71 pages long. Can you give me a short version?