I was informed by Robert Sungenis that he will be coming out with a new book next week: Geocentrism for Dumskies and Smart Children.  He said it would be "for kids 10 and up and teens and adults."  I think it is one more praiseworthy and noble effort by Sungenis to try to inform the world of an important and profound truth which so much of the modern science establishment seems hell bent on rejecting even though more and more evidence for it continues to stare them in the face.

I was informed by Robert Sungenis that he will be coming out with a new book next week: Geocentrism for Dumskies and Smart Children.  He said it would be "for kids 10 and up and teens and adults."  I think it is one more praiseworthy and noble effort by Sungenis to try to inform the world of an important and profound truth which so much of the modern science establishment seems hell bent on rejecting even though more and more evidence for it continues to stare them in the face.

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I can't find the new book for sale. Can you provide a link to the bookstore? 
BTW I tried to order Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right, Volumes I & II hardcover, and the only thing I could find was USED copies in "good condition" for $297.21, $300.47, and $517.09.

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I can't find the new book for sale. Can you provide a link to the bookstore?
BTW I tried to order Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right, Volumes I & II hardcover, and the only thing I could find was USED copies in "good condition" for $297.21, $300.47, and $517.09.

Thanks for asking Neil.  Here you go: http://flatearthflatwrong.com/product/geocentrism-for-dumskies-and-smart-kids-vol-1-the-science/

Klas and Cassini,

You should consider yourselves fortunate that Neil Obstat allows you to discuss geocentrism. I think it's good that you are able to do so, because it shows that you feel strongly about the subject. 

However, does the Catholic Church actually teach geocentrism? 

Geocentrism used to be considered a given in the Catholic Church backed up by the time honored and straight forward traditional interpretation of Sacred Scripture, as well as the Fathers, and Tradition.  Cassini has gone to great lengths to patiently explain and docuмent on CathInfo how the the teaching of geocentrism has fallen by the wayside -- just as so many other things in the Catholic Church such as the the condemnation of usury, contraception, communion in the hand, etc.

But didn't geocentrism fall by the wayside some time ago, even before Vatican ll?

Yes, that is quite true Meg.  I would say the major slippage (deference to false science combined with historical criticism applied to Sacred Scripture) came about in the 19th Century.  Hoping that Cassini the expert on these matters can jump in here.

I appreciate your charitable response. I do hope that Cassini will jump in too, and give his view of it.

It does seem like, as you say, that the slippage came about in the 19th century (or thereabouts), but I don't really know a lot about it. Certainly the view of a flat earth slipped away even before that.

Modern science became a replacement of religion (of sorts) at some point in the past; but now, of course, many people take modern science as a fact, and as a way to explain the world, and they leave behind a Catholic cosmology, though it would seem that the Church was not completely clear in what the exact cosmology is.

NASA is just so much more glamorous and impressive, with all of it's CG'd photos and such. Science fiction movies and books from the last century have also played their part in dismissing a proper Catholic conception of the universe, though of course we would not be in agreement of what the earth and heavens are shaped as. What we can agree on, maybe, is that modern science has corrupted the fact of a God-centered and created universe.

I appreciate your charitable response. I do hope that Cassini will jump in too, and give his view of it.

It does seem like, as you say, that the slippage came about in the 19th century (or thereabouts), but I don't really know a lot about it. Certainly the view of a flat earth slipped away even before that.

Modern science became a replacement of religion (of sorts) at some point in the past; but now, of course, many people take modern science as a fact, and as a way to explain the world, and they leave behind a Catholic cosmology, though it would seem that the Church was not completely clear in what the exact cosmology is.

NASA is just so much more glamorous and impressive, with all of it's CG'd photos and such. Science fiction movies and books from the last century have also played their part in dismissing a proper Catholic conception of the universe, though of course we would not be in agreement of what the earth and heavens are shaped as. What we can agree on, maybe, is that modern science has corrupted the fact of a God-centered and created universe.

Pope St. Pius X was spot on in his analysis of how the modernists were trying to use science to spin or altogether dismiss Sacred Scripture, the Fathers, etc.  See for example: http://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius10/p10lamen.htm

Excellent choice of reference, Klas.

I want to draw attention to the last two condemned errors listed, since they specifically concern science:

Fr. Paul Robinson, SSPX (The Realist Guide to Religion and Science) please read Lamentabili Sane - AGAIN and AGAIN, and AGAIN.