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Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 04:16:10 PM »
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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 04:29:13 PM »
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  • YouTube video of spinning top.

    The earth *supposedly* travels much faster in circles than the spinning top, according to the globalists. What would happen if water were placed on the top before it started spinning? Would it stick to the top, or would it fly off? I opt for the latter. 

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 04:54:36 PM »
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  • YouTube video of spinning top.

    The earth *supposedly* travels much faster in circles than the spinning top, according to the globalists. What would happen if water were placed on the top before it started spinning? Would it stick to the top, or would it fly off? I opt for the latter.


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 05:58:23 PM »
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  • YouTube video of spinning top.

    The earth *supposedly* travels much faster in circles than the spinning top, according to the globalists. What would happen if water were placed on the top before it started spinning? Would it stick to the top, or would it fly off? I opt for the latter.
    Go back and read the first thing I wrote in this thread. 

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 07:22:59 PM »
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  • That's right.  Modern science's credibility is pure garbage because it obviously lies about earth spinning.  Its ridiculous that the newest "modern" geocentrics who think earth is a ball, trust that the spherical earth is true, but think the spin is just spin.  They still trust false science and ignore people like Enoch, Cosmas, Severian, Tertullian, Moses, St. John Chrysostom and Methodius because they aren't infallible. 

    So much for logic. 

     


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #20 on: January 24, 2018, 08:24:39 AM »
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  • They still trust false science and ignore people like Enoch, Cosmas, Severian, Tertullian, Moses, St. John Chrysostom and Methodius because they aren't infallible.  

    So much for logic.  

    Speaking of logic, it is difficult to see the logic behind that list of people.  

    Enoch did not actually write the Book of Enoch and it, according to the Church, is apocryphal and has no authority whatsoever.  

    If the Cosmas you list is the sixth century proponent of flat earth, he was a travelling merchant who became a monk in his later years. The Catholic Encyclopedia writes:
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    According to Cosmas the world is a rectangular structure in two sections, their length much greater than their breadth, and corresponding in form and proportions to the Tabernacle of the Old Testament. The base is formed by the surface of the earth, around which flows the ocean; on the other side of the ocean lies another — unknown — continent, from which rise the walls that support the firmament above. The stars are carried by the angels in a circle around the firmament. Above the firmament springs a vault which separates the heaven of the blessed from the world beneath. The theory that there is an antipodes, says Cosmas, is a doctrine to be rejected. The earth rises towards the north and ends in a cone-shaped mountain behind which the sun continues its wanderings during the night, and the nights are long or short according as the position of the sun is near the base or the summit of the mountain.

    This curious attempt to harmonize a childish Biblical exegesis with ordinary phenomena and the current opinions of the time is at least superior to the extraordinary geographical hypotheses of that day. Aside from the fact that the theories of Cosmas exercised no influence, they are not of sufficient importance to affect the genuine worth of several portions of the "Topography". 
    Why would anyone accept something just because he wrote it?  From what I have made out of your beliefs, even you do not accept everything in his theory.
     
    You also include Tertullian on your list.  Presumably you accept him as an authority  because you do not know he became a heretic.  Look:

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    It was after the year 206 that he joined the Montanist sect, and he seems to have definitively separated from the Church about 211 (Harnack) or 213 (Monceaux). After writing more virulently against the Church than even against heathen and persecutors, he separated from the Montanists and founded a sect of his own. 
     
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     Posterity has preserved his name on account of the prominent but regrettable role which he played in the deposition and banishment of St. John Chrysostom.

    You also have Moses on your list which presumably refers to passages from the first 5 books of the Bible.  These, like all Scripture, are without error. This does not belong in the same list as the above fallible and suspect writings. Or do have some other work, supposedly by Moses, that you use as an authority.


    You do not seem to have put any thought or research into your sources.  You appear to assume that any source that supports flat earth must be legitimate.

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #21 on: January 24, 2018, 09:22:27 AM »
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  • That's right.  Modern science's credibility is pure garbage because it obviously lies about earth spinning.  Its ridiculous that the newest "modern" geocentrics who think earth is a ball, trust that the spherical earth is true, but think the spin is just spin.  They still trust false science and ignore people like Enoch, Cosmas, Severian, Tertullian, Moses, St. John Chrysostom and Methodius because they aren't infallible.  

    So much for logic.  

     

    And since modern science lies about the spinning, how can it be trusted to get anything else right? 

    Indeed, there's not much logic in those modern Catholics who, as you say, ignore Enoch, Cosmas, Severian, Tertullian, Moses, St. John Chrysostom and Methodius.

    It's just so much easier, I guess, to trust the non-Catholic modern scientists. 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #22 on: January 24, 2018, 09:44:50 AM »
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  • I don't buy this argument.  Centrifugal force is calculated by the rate of rotation relative to the axis.  If you were to spin a top so that it only made one full rotation in 24 hours, things wouldn't just fly off it due to centrifugal force.  It's been calculated from equations that are known to be accurate for other things that the centrifugal force exerted by the earth's rotation would only be about 1/3 of 1 percent of gravity and so would have little effect in overcoming gravity.

    If you had a giant top that were, say, 100 miles in diameter, if you only rotated it completely once every 24 hours, the same would apply.  Even though the speed of movement at any given point around the perimeter would be much higher than a top that is only a few inches in diameter, the centrifugal force exerted would be the same.  You would be more likely to fall off due to the inertia caused by gravity pulling you down, but would not be pushed outward to fly off.  In a vacuum without gravity, you would not be pushed off the top.