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NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
« on: January 20, 2018, 09:59:37 AM »
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  • Science in the classroom always taught that the rotation of the earth countered other forces to keep things down on earth.  Gravity and spin made the ball earth possible. We all grew up reading it in science books. Now that the 'spin' fell out of favor with some geocentric model believers, what story do they propose for how gravity works now?  Same gravity different reason?  Does modern science support this new theory? And if gravity now works without the spin, why did science spin us in the first place? I wonder if any geocentric model ppl have the nerve to say they abandoned the idea that earth spins because Scripture says earth is fixed.  Otherwise, where do they get their scientific beliefs? From movies?          


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 10:40:17 AM »
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  • E M & S are all three in two types of motion--- rotational and lateral. :sleep:
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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 10:55:31 AM »
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  • E M & S are all three in two types of motion--- rotational and lateral. :sleep:
    And you think this is an answer?  Not only is it unclear, it doesn't respond to the thread at all. 
    Where has the earth's spin gone?  What are geocentric sources for this loss of spin?  How does gravity work with spin? Now without spin?  Can it work either with or without spin and who says so?  

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 02:59:08 PM »
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  • Go to the nearest park, stand on the edge of a merry-go-round, and spin it around slowly enough that it takes 24 hours to do a complete rotation. Then tell me if it flung you off. 

    The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with gravity, and it's slow enough to be negligible in terms of the centripetal force it exerts.

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 05:48:08 PM »
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  • Go to the nearest park, stand on the edge of a merry-go-round, and spin it around slowly enough that it takes 24 hours to do a complete rotation. Then tell me if it flung you off.

    The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with gravity, and it's slow enough to be negligible in terms of the centripetal force it exerts.
    You say that the rotation of the earth has nothing to do with gravity, but that was what science taught for years. 


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 05:53:18 PM »
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  • Go to the nearest park, stand on the edge of a merry-go-round, and spin it around slowly enough that it takes 24 hours to do a complete rotation. Then tell me if it flung you off.

    The rotation of the earth has nothing to do with gravity, and it's slow enough to be negligible in terms of the centripetal force it exerts.
    There is no rotation to the earth; read the Bible and convert to Catholicism.
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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 02:09:01 AM »
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  • You say that the rotation of the earth has nothing to do with gravity, but that was what science taught for years.
    Citation needed. Not in any science course I ever took.

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 10:57:56 AM »
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  • And you think this is an answer?  Not only is it unclear, it doesn't respond to the thread at all.  
    Where has the earth's spin gone?  What are geocentric sources for this loss of spin?  How does gravity work with spin? Now without spin?  Can it work either with or without spin and who says so?  
    i have no idea what you are talking about... :confused:
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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 11:06:20 AM »
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  • Calculations of the earth's centrifugal force show that the force would only counteract gravity by 1/3 of 1 percent.  I believe that the earth is stationary, but this is not proof.


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 12:21:57 PM »
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  • Citation needed. Not in any science course I ever took.



    The Cause of Gravity
     My friend thinks gravity is caused by the Earth spinning, and I think it is caused by the Earth weighing so much we stick to it. Who is right?
    You are correct. Gravity is caused by the mass of the Earth and has nothing to do with it's spinning. The spinning of the Earth actually reduces the "gravity" felt by someone at the equator as compared to someone at one of the poles. It is just one of the facts of the Universe that everything that weighs anything, pulls other matter towards it, and the more it weighs, the bigger the pull.
    Dr. Eric Christian
    (November 2000)

    And from Wiki:

    The apparent force of gravity on Earth is the resultant (vector sum) of two forces:[30] (a) The gravitational attraction in accordance with Newton's universal law of gravitation, and (b) the centrifugal force, which results from the choice of an earthbound, rotating frame of reference. The force of gravity is the weakest at the equator because of the centrifugal force caused by the Earth's rotation and because points on the equator are furthest from the center of the Earth. The force of gravity varies with latitude and increases from about 9.780 m/s2 at the Equator to about 9.832 m/s2 at the poles.


     

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 08:39:40 PM »
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  • Your quotes repeat exactly what I said... Gravity is weakened by the earth's rotation, but the effect is imperceptible unless you have very sensitive instruments.

    Or if Ladislaus prefers, the earth's gravity is weakened by the rotation of the rest of the universe around it while it stays stationary. It comes to the same thing.


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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 09:07:15 PM »
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  • Your quotes repeat exactly what I said... Gravity is weakened by the earth's rotation, but the effect is imperceptible unless you have very sensitive instruments.

    Or if Ladislaus prefers, the earth's gravity is weakened by the rotation of the rest of the universe around it while it stays stationary. It comes to the same thing.
    Ahem.  Spinning earth and gravity.  Either the earth spins, which has an effect on gravity, or it does not spin.  Some geocentrists here think science is telling the truth when it says earth is a globe, but that it lies when it says earth spins.  The effect of earth spin has definitely changed over the years, but the discrepancies surrounding it only grow.    

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 11:17:54 AM »
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  • Here is another meme to keep globe earthers flattened.

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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 12:32:53 PM »
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  • Ahem.  Spinning earth and gravity.  Either the earth spins, which has an effect on gravity, or it does not spin.  Some geocentrists here think science is telling the truth when it says earth is a globe, but that it lies when it says earth spins.  The effect of earth spin has definitely changed over the years, but the discrepancies surrounding it only grow.    
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    “The difference between centripetal and centrifugal force has to do with different ‘frames of reference,’ that is, different viewpoints from which you measure something,” according to Andrew A. Ganse, a research physicist at the University of Washington. If you are observing a rotating system from the outside, you see an inward centripetal force acting to constrain the rotating body to a circular path. However, if you are part of the rotating system, you experience an apparent centrifugal force pushing you away from the center of the circle, even though what you are actually feeling is the inward centripetal force that is keeping you from literally going off on a tangent. 
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    This apparent outward force is described by Newton’s Laws of MotionNewton’s First Law states that “A body at rest will remain at rest, and a body in motion will remain in motion unless it is acted upon by an external force.” If a massive body is moving through space in a straight line, its inertia will cause it to continue in a straight line unless an outside force causes it to speed up, slow down or change direction. In order for it to follow a circular path without changing speed, a continuous centripetal force must be continuously applied at a right angle to its path. The radius r of this circle is equal to the mass m times the square of the velocity v divided by the centripetal force F, or r = (mv2)/F. The force can be calculated by simply rearranging the equation, F= (mv2)/r
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    The part you're not understanding is what constitutes the rotating system.
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    Re: NEW GEOCENTRICS: Earth's Spin and Gravity
    « Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 12:35:10 PM »
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