[noOneImportant]

I think weight is basically is function of density and mass. 

This is demonstrably untrue. Stick something inside a vacuum chamber and it still falls.

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This is demonstrably untrue. Stick something inside a vacuum chamber and it still falls.

So what?  What I've said would predict that.  It's just that without air/water/you sitting on it, it wouldn't be quite as heavy  

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[noOneImportant]

I don't understand what you are trying to say then. What exactly is it about gravity that you have an issue with, and what are you proposing to replace it with? 

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I don't understand what you are trying to say then. What exactly is it about gravity that you have an issue with, and what are you proposing to replace it with?

Gravity is an answer to a problem that only exists on a Globe Earth.  You don't need Gravity to explain why dumbells are heavy, on a Flat Earth.  It's density and mass on Globe and Flat Earth, but Gravity explains how people in Australia can walk upside down on a Globe Earth.  

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[noOneImportant]

Gravity is not the solution to any problem. It's an explanation of an observed phenomenon. We observe that: 

1. Things fall towards the earth.
2. The rate at which things fall is independent of their weight if you remove air resistance (i.e. buoyancy and density) from the equation. The famous experiment of dropping a feather an a hammer in a vacuum chamber comes to mind.

We further observe, if you find sensitive enough equipment, that ALL objects are pulled towards one another. The earth is so big compared to everything on it that you don't notice without sensitive equipment, but it can be done (and I've done it in a physics lab. Really cool experiment). All gravity is is an equation that describes this interaction. 

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Gravity is not the solution to any problem. It's an explanation of an observed phenomenon. We observe that:

1. Things fall towards the earth.
2. The rate at which things fall is independent of their weight if you remove air resistance (i.e. buoyancy and density) from the equation. The famous experiment of dropping a feather an a hammer in a vacuum chamber comes to mind.

We further observe, if you find sensitive enough equipment, that ALL objects are pulled towards one another. The earth is so big compared to everything on it that you don't notice without sensitive equipment, but it can be done (and I've done it in a physics lab. Really cool experiment). All gravity is is an equation that describes this interaction.

No it isn't.  Gravity is an invention to explain how a Globe Earth is possible.  If you have been decieved into believing that special machinery is needed to determine why dumbells are heavy, then I think you should start rigorously questioning those beliefs and the people who taught them to you.  

[noOneImportant]

Nowhere did I say anything about why, because the law of gravity doesn't say anything about why. It merely says what. 

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Nowhere did I say anything about why, because the law of gravity doesn't say anything about why. It merely says what.

Gravity does not explain why dumbells are heavy;  density and mass does.  Gravity explains why Australians don't fall off The Globe.  

[noOneImportant]

Noted. I will add you to the list of people who clearly have no interest in having a real discussion.

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I'm telling you the truth, as I see it.  And, I think you are conflating Gravity with Mass/Density and I don't think they are the same things, nor do I think they answer the same questions, but you do and I think you are wrong about that.  If Issac Newton and Albert Einstein were here, I think they would agree with me on this point.  

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So, mass and density are functions of weight on a Flat or Globe Earth, but on The Globe Earth you have the extra "layer" of Gravity applied to all mass and density, creating a "stick to the ball" effect, which explains how trillions of tons of water can stick to the side of The Globe Earth and a seagul can still fly over that water.  I think somehow Gravity is supposed to attract objects corresponding to their mass and density.  So, Gravity "can" hold all that water and still let the seagull fly.  I don't think Gravity is real, but I think that is roughly how it is  supposed to work.  

Of course, there is the further "layer" of The Earth's spin, at around 1000 mph.  Gravity is supposed to hold us safely to The Globe Earth, while this spin is occurring.  Again, mass/density don't explain why we don't fly off/fall off a Spinning Globe Earth;  Gravity explains that.  

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