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Offline MiserereMeiDeus

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Re: Neil: My moon experiment
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2018, 05:41:51 PM »
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    Re: Neil: My moon experiment
    « Reply #16 on: February 11, 2018, 11:32:46 PM »
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  • I did post my photos.
    You complained at how bad they are.
    What experiment page are you talking about? There isn't one. 
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    Your photos are so bad it isn't even funny. It's embarrassing.
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    Here you go, since you don't know how to use the Internet:
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    Flat-earthers are liberals and nothing gets under the skin of a liberal more than when they lose the popular vote.
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    So this thread was a good idea.
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    Here Is a Little Science Experiment You Can Conduct
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    On a clear night, with a full moon visible, chat with somebody in the southern hemisphere (or northern hemisphere if you're from the southern hemisphere) when they also have a clear night. You'll both need good cameras with good magnification. Take pictures of the moon at the same time as zoomed in as you can get with a long exposure (preferably using a tripod). Once you both get good quality photos, send them to each other so that you can examine both at the same time. 
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    Question 1: 
    Is their moon upside down from yours?
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    The answer to this will be yes. The reason for this is because you're looking at the same moon from the opposite sides of a sphere. Just imagine you were standing on top of a sphere and somebody was standing on the bottom and you were both looking at something in the distance. What you see would look upside down to them. This may prompt some people to say that the moon could simply be between the two of you. Fair enough. That brings us to question 2.
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    Question 2: 
    If I flip their picture of the moon upside down and compare the two pictures, am I looking at the moon from a noticeably different angle? In other words, can I see portions of the moon that they cannot see, and can they see portions that I can't?
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    The answer to both questions will be no. The pictures should be pretty close to identical in terms of the angle from which you are viewing the spherical moon. If the moon was in between the two of you and close to the earth, you should see sides of the moon that the other person cannot see. 
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    Imagine an oversize lighter-than-air volleyball that has one half painted red. Now put that ball in between two people standing 50 feet apart at eye level where the red side faces one person and the white side faces the other. Let's say you're facing the red side. Now imagine that ball starts to float upwards slowly. When the ball gets to about 20 feet up, you'd still see mostly the red side, but you might get a small glimpse of white on the bottom from this angle. At 50 feet up you'd see even more of the white side emerging from the bottom of the ball. Eventually the ball would get high enough off the ground where the difference in your viewing angle is so minuscule that you'd both see close to 50% white and 50% red. Of course, you'd need a really huge ball to even be able to see it very well at that distance. Well, the moon is pretty big and works perfectly in this example. This is basic trigonometry and it tells us that the moon is extremely far away from us. Otherwise you'd be able to go to different parts of the earth and see different sides of the moon. Actually, if the moon was moving over your head close to the earth, you should see different sides as it passes over you, but you don't. 
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    Question 3: 
    Do you see any stars around the moon in either picture you took?
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    The answer again will be no. It's not because the stars aren't there. It's because the cameras' exposures didn't pick up their dim light. This is exactly the same thing that happens when you look at pictures of the spheroidal earth from space. The reason you can't see any stars around the earth has more to do with the limitation of cameras than anything else. Do you really think that a government agency that can produce nearly flawless CGI images of the round earth on a daily basis would simply forget to add the stars to every picture? Stars would be the easiest part of that project!
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    This is one of many experiments you can conduct yourself to verify a spheroidal earth. There is no reason to take my word for it.
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