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Offline happenby

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Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2018, 04:36:24 PM »
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  • It seems to me that Catholics who treat flat earth as a matter of faith want to see themselves as better Catholics than the usual ones who believe the earth is spherical.

    Most Catholics who believe in a spherical earth seem to me to be simply accepting the norm for Catholics for the past thousand plus years.  Such Catholics aren't interested in drawing attention to themselves or trying to be special or better than others.  They are just going along with a well-established Catholic tradition.
    This sounds like that old Protestant adage "Catholic triumphalism" levied at Catholics because Catholics have the truth.  Flat earthers do not think they are better than anyone.  Every single truth God shares with us is important to salvation, at least to protect one from error that might cost them the Faith.  Flat earthers only desire to share the truth in order to help people out of the false paradigm they've suffered from the deviations of the controlling globalists.  Instead, fe'ers are met with every resistance, calumny, disregard, rudeness, and contradiction imaginable, and for that, they are crowned as seeing themselves as better-than-thou Catholics.  Un flipping believable!


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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #31 on: April 04, 2018, 04:37:25 PM »
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    Once someone decides they're a flat-earther, it's too late, they're not coming back from that nonsense. They didn't use facts, evidence, or logic to reach that conclusion in the first place, so you can't really use facts, evidence, or logic in your argument to convince them the earth is indeed spheroid.
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    The issue of the shadow of Earth cast on the Moon (lunar eclipse) won't sway the flat-earthers because it is increasingly common for them to believe that the Moon is not real, but rather something like a "Holographic Projection", and the shadow of Earth could be simulated to have whatever shape was desired within the projection of the Moon, by those in charge of the projector. And, yes, they are talking about the THAT Moon projector, the one that has been projecting a simulated image of the Moon for thousands of years. When reality gets in the way of their ad hoc fantasy world, they just make stuff up, even if it contradicts what they've said before. Flat-earthism isn't scientific, it's not logical, and it's not reasonable. It's just silly.
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    Flat-earthers refuse to think. They patently object to engage in any direct observations. They make themselves immune from simple logic.
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    There is no discussion to be had with such wilfully obtuse obstructionists.
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    Their greatest fear is that they've been wrong all along, but there is nothing to fear in truth.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #32 on: April 04, 2018, 04:38:49 PM »
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  • Are you basically okay with NASA's Origins program?
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    Why should anyone care what NASA is all about? Why are you so obsessed with NASA? Who cares about NASA?
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    If it's your tax money that's your concern, what about funding abortion or supporting the Israeli war agenda?
    Or using military forces in Afghanistan to protect the opium and poppy world trade and profiteering?
    Is NASA more important than everything to you because you like to think the earth is a cheesecake?
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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #33 on: April 04, 2018, 04:40:16 PM »
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    Once someone decides they're a flat-earther, it's too late, they're not coming back from that nonsense. They didn't use facts, evidence, or logic to reach that conclusion in the first place, so you can't really use facts, evidence, or logic in your argument to convince them the earth is indeed spheroid.
    I agree that it is not possible to convince them of anything.  I gave up on doing that soon after I first encountered them.  But they continually say untrue things about Catholicism and Church teaching.  I would prefer to ignore them, but I think I may have a duty to respond with the truth, not to convince them, but so the truth will be on record.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #34 on: April 04, 2018, 04:44:06 PM »
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  • I agree that it is not possible to convince them of anything.  I gave up on doing that soon after I first encountered them.  But they continually say untrue things about Catholicism and Church teaching.  I would prefer to ignore them, but I think I may have a duty to respond with the truth, not to convince them, but so the truth will be on record.
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    That's fine, just keep in mind you won't be getting any logical or reasonable discussions. It'll be like talking to a cactus.
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    Some people enjoy talking to their plants, though, and some have cactus gardens.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #35 on: April 04, 2018, 04:49:07 PM »
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    Flat-earthers refuse to think.
    They patently object to engage in any direct observations.
    They make themselves immune from simple logic.
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    There is no discussion to be had with such willfully obtuse obstructionists. 
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    Their greatest fear is that they've been wrong all along,
    but there's nothing to fear in the truth. 
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    There is nothing for flat-earthers to fear but sphere itself.

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #36 on: April 04, 2018, 05:00:04 PM »
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  • Discernment of what is truth is sorely lacking in people these days.

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #37 on: April 04, 2018, 07:23:49 PM »
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  • The word NASA is a derivative from these words.


    In its original Hebrew it is נָשָׂא (naw-shaw').




    Transliteration: “Nasah” or “Nasa” (positive)


    Definition: - to lift, carry, take.




    The negative context is - Transliteration: “Nasha” (negative).


    Defitions (plural / more than one): Strong's Concordance Hebrew Dictionary list the definition for the Hebrew word #5377 (beguiled as used in Genesis 3:13), is shown here as: #5377 nasha', naw-shaw'; a prim. Root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:-beguile, deceive., X greatly, x utterly.

    Always thought the Jєωs had infiltrated NASA.
    In fact, the whole NASA moon launch program was probably their biggest embezzlement heist of the American treasury of the 1960s.  After stealing $billions, the ʝʊdɛօ-masonics realized they could rob the whole country blind.
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    Practically unreadable/Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #38 on: April 04, 2018, 09:02:32 PM »
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  • Did you read the link in the O.P.?

    You mean the cited Web page in <www.fixedearth.com>?
    Too Much [expletives deleted] Eye-Strain--Didn't Finish (TMES-DF).

    Only an artsy-trendy idiot would expect people to read long prose displayed in medium-gray on some artsy-trendy background-color that's any darker than white.  Oooh!  But they're edgy & hip young "Web designers",  and anything they do is kewwwl!

    Hah!  As my eyes accuмulate seniority, I increasingly want to see all such artsy-trendy idiots dragged out from in front of their luxurious set of huge computer monitors used only under the most visually perfect lighting--and shot![/i]

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    Re: Practically unreadable/Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #39 on: April 04, 2018, 10:07:06 PM »
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  • You mean the cited Web page in <www.fixedearth.com>?
    Too Much [expletives deleted] Eye-Strain--Didn't Finish (TMES-DF).

    Only an artsy-trendy idiot would expect people to read long prose displayed in medium-gray on some artsy-trendy background-color that's any darker than white.  Oooh!  But they're edgy & hip young "Web designers",  and anything they do is kewwwl!

    Hah!  As my eyes accuмulate seniority, I increasingly want to see all such artsy-trendy idiots dragged out from in front of their luxurious set of huge computer monitors used only under the most visually perfect lighting--and shot!
    Ditto. 

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: NASA's Spiritual Roots
    « Reply #40 on: April 05, 2018, 04:11:18 AM »
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  • Well, Neil, you exhibit a similar almost-religious zealotry in your contempt for flat earth.  I'd like to know why.  
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    I've already answered this question many times. 
    Maybe to you it looks like "contempt" but to me, their obvious falsehoods and lies need to be exposed. 
    They're fake. All their so-called observations are falsified, and I know that for a fact.
    I have gone to great lengths to show each detail and all I get is ridicule for the effort.
    And then you come along and pretend nothing has happened.
    Your reading comprehension must be highly compromised unless you haven't been keeping up with the topic.
    Or else you just like to pretend you don't know so you can remain agnostic, like you do with other topics.
    It's not "zealotry" when you have seen the reality in question with your own eyes, and I have seen it.
    So would you be happier if I were to lie about it and say I have not seen the earth's curvature with my own eyes?
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    Put another way, if YOU had seen it with your own eyes, would you think you'd have to be a "zealot" to speak the truth?
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