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More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
« on: July 27, 2023, 07:29:00 AM »
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  • ‘This position of the Flood as being geographically universal meets with serious scientific difficulties. For one, how can you get enough rain to cover the entire earth?... In other words, the laws operating on the Earth today cannot be applied to the time of Noah… One of the motivations for Brown to postulate water coming from below [the Earth] is that the Bible describes the waters of the Flood as coming both from the ‘fountains of great deep’ and the ‘floodgates of Heaven’ (see Gen, 8:2) …. Clearly this is a popular, but not a scientific description.’--- Fr Paul Robinson SSPX, The Realist Guide to Religion and Science, Gracewing, 2018, pp. 274-275.

    Is this priest actually questioning God’s ability to flood the Earth with water as revealed in Genesis? Is Fr Paul telling us the following is not a true history?

    ‘[4] I will rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will destroy every substance that I have made, from the face of the earth. And the flood was forty days upon the earth, and the waters increased. [11] all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the flood gates of heaven were opened: [12] And the rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights. [18] For they overflowed exceedingly: and filled all on the face of the earth: [19] And the waters prevailed beyond measure upon the earth: and all the high mountains were covered. [20] The water was fifteen cubits higher than the mountains which it covered.’--- (Genesis Ch 7 and 8)

    Obviously the worldwide sediments as evidence of a geographically universal flood has gone unnoticed by Fr Robinson. Take also the vast flood deposits of silt and salt found in the Euphrates Valley in Iran, a high plateau 4000 to 5000 feet above sea level. Is that not enough scientific evidence to show the Flood had to cover all the earth? Then there are the deep-frozen mammoths, found in a great arc from Spitzbergen through Siberia to arctic Alaska. Whole bodies, young and old, found deep in the permafrost, filled with undigested vegetation, obviously drowned by a sudden flooding over the whole northern area of the Earth.


    And now we have this:
    https://www.tiktok.com/@radd7773nab/video/7248035925031259434

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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #1 on: July 27, 2023, 08:40:19 AM »
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  • Oh, I've seen presentations done by ATHEISTS showing evidence for a simultaneous worldwide flood.  They tend to claim it happened around 10,000 B.C., however, but the evidence is there.  It's sad when an atheist gets it right and a "Traditional Catholic" priest does not.


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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #2 on: July 27, 2023, 10:57:44 AM »
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  • It's an interesting theory, but why should there be "anything" left of a meteor if they were travelling much faster than a bullet, and bullets tend to explode on impact?
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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #3 on: July 27, 2023, 11:08:08 AM »
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  • It's an interesting theory, but why should there be "anything" left of a meteor if they were travelling much faster than a bullet, and bullets tend to explode on impact?

    Well, the question of what caused the worldwide flood remains theory, but there's evidence that it happened, that there was flooding all over the world around the same time (they claim 10,000 B.C. but I would dispute that), i.e. that it was not limited to the Mesopotamian basin as people like Father Robinson claim.  Of course, the entire ark thing would have been an absurdity with such a limited flood.  In the many decades it took Noah to build the ark, he could have just migrated out of the region, and there was no need to save animals, as they too could have migrated.  Not to mention that it directly contradicts Sacred Scripture, which states that the flood covered all the earth and above the peaks of the highest mountains ... simply not possible with a local flood.  Father Robinson would attribute error to Sacred Scripture; he's a Modernist.

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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #4 on: July 27, 2023, 11:16:37 AM »
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  • This guy is fascinating and modern scientists hate him, so he's probably onto something.  And he seems pretty unbiased in his search for historical fact.

    Here he talks about the evidence (among all kinds of ancient cultures) for a worldwide flood, roughly 11,000 years ago (i.e. 9-10,000 BC).



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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #5 on: July 27, 2023, 11:27:21 AM »
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  • Here he talks about the evidence for the existence of Atlantis, (which he says was probably not 1 place, but a global culture/empire).  Egyptian records and Plato's stories put this great culture in the period of 9-10,000 BC, and it was destroyed by a worldwide flood.

    Atlantis is not an Egyptian word; the Egyptians called it the city of the "Primordial Ones".  Primordial means "first created" or "existing in the beginning".  This would line up with the Angels/Watchers/Nephalim/Giants stories in the Bible, and the Book of Enoch, and the Greek stories of "pagan gods" of Zeus, Hercules, etc.  So angels came to earth, fathered children (Nephalim/Giants) through witchcraft/genetic manipulation (to corrupt the human race and prevent the birth of Christ) and then ruled the world.  So God destroyed the world and started over.

    Post flood, Noah and the "7 Sages" (as many ancient cultures called them) travelled the world and brought knowledge of the pre-flood times so society could rebuild.


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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #6 on: July 27, 2023, 11:28:58 AM »
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  • Scripture tells us that everything under heaven and even the mountains were covered by water in the Great Flood

    Genesis 7:17-23


    "And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered. And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark"


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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #7 on: July 27, 2023, 11:37:25 AM »
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  • Here's where he explains the cause of global flood (i.e. a comet or 2) and how it caused the 'ice age' and a rise in sea levels/global flood.  Then he describes some period where another comet hits and causes the re-warming of the earth.  He says this happened over a period of a 1,000 years.  Obviously, we know it happened much, much quicker.  

    What he's not factoring in here is that, in addition to the comet(s), you'd have the loss of the firmament water from above (i.e. 40 days of rain) and the "waters of the deep" being let loose (probably by massive earthquakes all over), as Scripture tells us.  In other words, all this destruction was happening all at once, all over the world, and these changes to the earth's sea level and a cooling/warming happened very violently, quickly, probably over a period of a few months or a year.

    Noah and family was on the Ark for a few years before they were able to find land.




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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #8 on: July 27, 2023, 11:39:45 AM »
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  • And as a side note, The "fifteen cubits above the mountains" is a symbol of the rosary, hence the fifteen decades of the rosary.  Noah must have made a rope with knots, looking much like a rosary.  The rosary actually appears three different times just in the story of Noah. 
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    Re: More evidence of Noah's worldwide Flood
    « Reply #9 on: July 27, 2023, 11:49:23 AM »
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  • And as a side note, The "fifteen cubits above the mountains" is a symbol of the rosary, hence the fifteen decades of the rosary.  Noah must have made a rope with knots, looking much like a rosary.  The rosary actually appears three different times just in the story of Noah.

    Amazing. Scripture is so rich. Do you know the other references to the rosary in his story?