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Online Gray2023

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Re: Moon experiment
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2025, 04:12:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 06, 2025, 10:28:41 AM
    Scripture says the moon is brightest light in the night sky.  This is true.
    Scripture says that the sun is the brightest light during the day.  This is true.

    Just because you can see the moon during the day, doesn't mean a) the sun isn't the brightest during the day, and b) doesn't mean the moon isn't the brightest during the night.

    Nowhere in scripture does it say the moon won't be seen during the day.  It only says the sun will "rule the day" (i.e. be the brightest).
    Ok. I don't disagree with that. Now if the moon is its own light source, why do you think it goes through different light shapes? Every month in a consistent measureable pattern? And is the only thing in the sky that does this?
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #31 on: May 06, 2025, 07:39:38 PM »
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    • :laugh1:  Gray, if we knew that, then this discussion wouldn’t be necessary. 
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #32 on: May 07, 2025, 10:19:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on May 05, 2025, 06:26:37 PM
    I wondered about this since I was a kid. It wasn't until I started researching "flat earth" that a light bulb went off.
    There is NO WAY the moon is a spherical ball that produces no light.

    A sphere sitting on a flat surface only makes contact with ONE POINT of that sphere. Everything else is various distances away from the surface.

    The same with light. There is no way the closest POINT of the moon wouldn't be brighter, and everything going away from that point (in all directions) wouldn't be LESS bright. In short, the Moon should always look 3D if it's a 3D sphere. The only way it could be uniformly lit, is if it somehow produced its own light.

    Again, this isn't about TRUSTING various characters and personalities such as Eric Dubay, David Weiss, or Austin Witsit. They could end in disgrace tomorrow, yet the things they pointed out, the truths they spread, the memes they created, would still persist. Because the truth has an intrinsic strength. Truth resonates with reality. It rings true. It makes sense.
    It would be interesting to see these same pictures taken when the background is completely dark.  I think it would give a different perspective and a more realistic one at that.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #33 on: May 07, 2025, 03:45:15 PM »
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    • It should be extremely easy to calculate the moon's altitude if it really is as close to the earth as flat earthers say. All you need is two people in two different locations that are a known distance apart to simultaneously measure the angle that the moon is above the horizon.

    In this diagram, an observer in New York and LA would each measure the angles, which would be theta 1 and theta 2. Using the law of sines, one could calculate the length of the other two sides of the triangle, and then use simple trigonometry to calculate the length of the dotted line, i.e. the actual altitude of the moon.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #34 on: May 07, 2025, 03:54:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on May 07, 2025, 03:45:15 PM
    It should be extremely easy to calculate the moon's altitude if it really is as close to the earth as flat earthers say. All you need is two people in two different locations that are a known distance apart to simultaneously measure the angle that the moon is above the horizon.

    In this diagram, an observer in New York and LA would each measure the angles, which would be theta 1 and theta 2. Using the law of sines, one could calculate the length of the other two sides of the triangle, and then use simple trigonometry to calculate the length of the dotted line, i.e. the actual altitude of the moon.

    Not sure what the results for the moon were, but this was done for the sun, which was calculated with this method (if I recall) to be about 3,200 miles away and roughly 30 miles in diameter.  Of course, the measurement is valid based on the assumption of FE, which is precisely what's being disputed.

    This is a corollary to the problem with Eratosthenes' "proof".  It's only valid based on the assumption of a spherical earth with and a sun that's very far away and very large.  If the sun were closer and smaller, you could see the exact same outcome.  So it's really not proof of anything but a circular argument, where you assume that which you're allegedly proving.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #35 on: May 21, 2025, 09:50:59 AM »
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    • Right now the moon looks like a far away spherical rock lit up by the sun, during the day.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #36 on: May 21, 2025, 03:08:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on May 21, 2025, 09:50:59 AM
    Right now the moon looks like a far away spherical rock lit up by the sun, during the day.

    Gee, I guess that settles it!  Thank you for such a massive, indisputable contribution! :laugh1:
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #37 on: May 21, 2025, 04:37:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 06, 2025, 08:39:25 AM
    The moon is a light source.  You keep repeating NASA's lie that the moon reflects light, with your campfire analogy.  You need to de-program yourself from decades of science lies.
    So find me some science experiment I could do myself that proves the earth is flat. A third grade level experiment would be just great. I could do it together with my third grader.  :cowboy:

    The Bible discription is the only thing you have to say the moon is it's own light source.

    I assume you think people are smart enough to create all the electrical stuff we have, but not smart enough to know how the moon works.  People are smart enough to work with DNA, but not space.

    This is all very inconsistent and when people ask serious questions, most of you just say "oh you are brainwashed". Then some of you say why would I do all this research and pick a side that is so rejected.  🤔  That argument sounds alot like "why would I choose to be gαy?" Just saying.

    If you truly believed you were 100% correct about flat earth, then you would be happy to repeat yourself over and over with real science to prove your point. I assume you would do this while trying to convert someone to Catholicism, no?

    The flatness of the earth should be so simple to explain that a child would be able to say, "yeah, what you are saying I see it, too."

    If I don't care about a topic, I don't ask questions. I am not some person who is trying to trick someone. If you think that of me, then you need to reread my posts without emotion.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #38 on: May 21, 2025, 04:55:21 PM »
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    • Ok, this isn't the moon but I'm wondering if someone with some skills could model the earth to a smaller scale (could be a basketball size), keep it spinning 24/7 for a week at the same rate the earth would be in comparison (earth is at 1000mph, basketball would be at ?).  We cover it with 70% water and see what happens to the water after one week of continual motion.  My guess is that it would be all over the floor or leveled out in the container placed under the experiment.  


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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #39 on: May 21, 2025, 05:15:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 21, 2025, 04:37:20 PM
    So find me some science experiment I could do myself that proves the earth is flat. A third grade level experiment would be just great. I could do it together with my third grader.  :cowboy:
    For a flat earth experiment do a laser line of sight test over a large body of water ie



    For the distance if the moon from the Earth use the inverse square law for luminosity of the moon 1 metre from the surface example:

    https://odysee.com/@GLOBEBUSTERS:c/oh-my-stars-it-s-impossible-by-bob:0?t=2421
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #40 on: May 21, 2025, 06:05:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on May 21, 2025, 04:55:21 PM
    Ok, this isn't the moon but I'm wondering if someone with some skills could model the earth to a smaller scale (could be a basketball size), keep it spinning 24/7 for a week at the same rate the earth would be in comparison (earth is at 1000mph, basketball would be at ?).  We cover it with 70% water and see what happens to the water after one week of continual motion.  My guess is that it would be all over the floor or leveled out in the container placed under the experiment. 



    Why do oceans have chages in tides? But rivers, lakes, and glasses of water do not?
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #41 on: May 21, 2025, 06:09:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 21, 2025, 04:37:20 PM
    The Bible discription is the only thing you have to say the moon is its own light source. 
    Ok, so you question Scripture.  
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #42 on: May 21, 2025, 06:09:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 21, 2025, 06:05:04 PM
    Why do oceans have chages in tides?

    Again, I am embarrassed for you and I pity your husband.  :fryingpan:
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #43 on: May 21, 2025, 06:28:07 PM »
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    • On a flat earth, why do oceans have tides?
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #44 on: May 21, 2025, 06:32:01 PM »
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    • That's a good question and I have no idea but for an actual experiment, who will replicate the 24/7 spinning ball to gauge how much water is left on it after a week or a year? 
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