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Online Pax Vobis

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Re: Moon experiment
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2025, 07:31:34 PM »
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    You are asking me to deny what my own eyes see.  I understand what the bible says, but at dusk when the light of a moon is a little sliver you can see the rest of a round object.  How is that possible if the moon is not a hard surface and is just plasma?
    1) Do you even know what plasma is?  You're assuming it works like a light bulb (i.e. 100% on or 100% off).  When you can see the dark shape of the unlit moon, maybe the plasma is only "on" 10%?

    2) Plasma is only 1 theory.  It could be made of something that is nowhere else seen on earth (i.e. the sun is unlike anything on earth, except a specific type of explosion only duplicated in a laboratory).

    3) No one is saying the plasma theory is 100% fact.  But we ARE saying the rock theory is 100% false.  You have to admit that.

    4) Using your eyes (i.e. observation) is only 1 small part of actually "doing science".  God did not design the human eyes for long-distance science experiments.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #16 on: May 05, 2025, 07:44:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on May 05, 2025, 05:46:18 PM
    Dude, this is exactly why I don’t take you flat earth wackos seriously. The retardation is astronomical. (pardon the pun):laugh2:

    This represents the most intellectual comment this poster has made on this subject ... or at least it's at tie. Congratulations.  Perhaps next time you could try arguing at at least a 3rd grade level now that you've graduated 2nd.  If abject stupidity were a bannable offense on CathInfo, you would have been gone a long time ago.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #17 on: May 05, 2025, 07:46:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 05, 2025, 04:49:13 PM
    I find it strange that you have never seen the unlit part of the moon.  I have been fascinated with the night sky my whole life and sometimes you can see the unlit part of the moon and sometimes you can't.  I don't completely understand why.

    Yeah, so the problem with the "unlit part of the moon" is that professional astronomers have recorded that you can see stars in the unlit part of the moon ... per various entires in the records of the Royal Astronomical Society, so not just some backyard rednecks not knowing what they were looking at.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #18 on: May 05, 2025, 07:50:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 05, 2025, 06:47:45 PM
    You are asking me to deny what my own eyes see.  I understand what the bible says, but at dusk when the light of a moon is a little sliver you can see the rest of a round object.  How is that possible if the moon is not a hard surface and is just plasma?

    Yeah, this "my own eyes" stuff is incredibly tiresome.  If you can't argue rationally, then please stop wasting our time.

    Your brain is imposing things on what your eyes see, very often interpreting what you're looking at by prior conception.  There are myriad experiments that prove this, where people are tricked into seeing something based on what their mind is expecting.

    Bible also does not say the moon is plasma, so you're conflating a couple things here.  That's just speculation based on observation of the phenomena.  There's that famous video of the one professors who insisted that it's proven fact that the moon is plasma.  Not sure what his evidence was, but the man was evidently qualified in the field.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #19 on: May 05, 2025, 09:30:15 PM »
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    • Here are some question I need answered to help me better understand better.

    Does the moon travel parallel to the earth?  

    Is there a thought about how far the moon is from earth? I have seen things that say the sun is approximately 3000 miles high in the sky.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #20 on: May 05, 2025, 09:47:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 05, 2025, 09:30:15 PM
    Is there a thought about how far the moon is from earth? I have seen things that say the sun is approximately 3000 miles high in the sky.
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    If the moon were only a short distance above the earth, it would extremely easy to calculate its altitude. Two flat earthers who live a known distance apart could calculate the angle the moon is above the horizon at the same time. This would create a triangle in which the three vertices would be the two flat-earthers and the moon. The side along the earth would be a known distance, as I said, the base angles of the triangle would be the two angles each person measured that the moon is above the horizon.

    With simple geometry and trigonometry, it would be very easy to calculate the altitude of the moon. If the earth were truly flat, flat earthers would have done this long ago and many times. ::)
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #21 on: May 05, 2025, 09:57:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 05, 2025, 07:46:45 PM
    Yeah, so the problem with the "unlit part of the moon" is that professional astronomers have recorded that you can see stars in the unlit part of the moon ... per various entires in the records of the Royal Astronomical Society, so not just some backyard rednecks not knowing what they were looking at.
    Simpleton, why do you need “professional astronomer” recordings when anyone can take a pair of binoculars and clearly see that the moon is a solid object? Actually, you don’t even need binoculars, your eyes will do just fine by themselves. Just because you keep repeating a lie doesn’t make it true. I can’t believe supposedly normal people would even debate this! Rachel Levine is going to use you as an expert witness when he needs someone to testify to his womanhood. :laugh2:

    Laddude, you’ve clearly lost all sense of reality! :facepalm:
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #22 on: May 05, 2025, 10:25:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on May 05, 2025, 09:57:16 PM
     Just because you keep repeating a lie doesn’t make it true. 

    Oui.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #23 on: May 06, 2025, 07:50:48 AM »
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    Simpleton, why do you need “professional astronomer” recordings when anyone can take a pair of binoculars and clearly see that the moon is a solid object?
    :facepalm:  Yeah, and if you looked at the ocean from far away, with binoculars, it would look solid too.  But we know it's not.  "Eyeball science" is 3rd grade level stuff. :facepalm:
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #24 on: May 06, 2025, 08:16:04 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 06, 2025, 07:50:48 AM
    :facepalm:  Yeah, and if you looked at the ocean from far away, with binoculars, it would look solid too.  But we know it's not.  "Eyeball science" is 3rd grade level stuff. :facepalm:
    Maybe I am wrong, but I would assume that plasma would look smooth from a distance just like the ocean, but we can see texture on the moon with a telescope. So I don't think the plasma idea works at all.

    The Bible says the moon is a light that rules the night, but the moon isn't only up at night.

    Here is another interesting experiment that can be done the next time you are at a campfire. Hold and object in front of you, put it in front of you between you and the fire. You can't see the detail because the light source is behind it, now slowly turn with the object and see how the objects detail changes.  That gives a primitive idea of how the phases of the moon work.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #25 on: May 06, 2025, 08:39:25 AM »
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    • The moon is a light source.  You keep repeating NASA's lie that the moon reflects light, with your campfire analogy.  You need to de-program yourself from decades of science lies.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #26 on: May 06, 2025, 10:16:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 06, 2025, 08:39:25 AM
    The moon is a light source.  You keep repeating NASA's lie that the moon reflects light, with your campfire analogy.  You need to de-program yourself from decades of science lies.
    You say the Bible says that the moon is a light to oversee the night. That is not true either. We can see something that we call the moon in the day as well. 

    There is a thing in the sky that goes through phases every month. Can we agree on that? Or do you think the light in the sky that goes through phases, is several different things?

    If we are having a true discussion then we have to start with what we agree on. No NASA involvement, just simple childlike observation. :cowboy:

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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #27 on: May 06, 2025, 10:28:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on May 06, 2025, 10:16:51 AM
    You say the Bible says that the moon is a light to oversee the night. That is not true either. We can see something that we call the moon in the day as well.
    Scripture says the moon is brightest light in the night sky.  This is true.
    Scripture says that the sun is the brightest light during the day.  This is true.

    Just because you can see the moon during the day, doesn't mean a) the sun isn't the brightest during the day, and b) doesn't mean the moon isn't the brightest during the night.

    Nowhere in scripture does it say the moon won't be seen during the day.  It only says the sun will "rule the day" (i.e. be the brightest).
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #28 on: May 06, 2025, 10:30:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 06, 2025, 08:39:25 AM
    The moon is a light source.  You keep repeating NASA's lie that the moon reflects light, with your campfire analogy.  You need to de-program yourself from decades of science lies.

    Perhaps the most convincing debunking of the NASA / establishment lie about the moon comes from an analysis regarding how bright the moon should be given the purported nature of its surface and the inverse square law of brightness.  Given that the moon is as bright as it is from earth, if you were on the surface of the moon as the astronots and various probes claim to have been, the light would be so blinding that you couldn't function in that environment ... nor would it be anywhere near as bright as it is if it weere simply reflecting the light of the sun.  Someone did the math there, and none of it adds up.
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    Re: Moon experiment
    « Reply #29 on: May 06, 2025, 12:53:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 06, 2025, 10:30:18 AM
    Perhaps the most convincing debunking of the NASA / establishment lie about the moon comes from an analysis regarding how bright the moon should be given the purported nature of its surface and the inverse square law of brightness.  Given that the moon is as bright as it is from earth, if you were on the surface of the moon as the astronots and various probes claim to have been, the light would be so blinding that you couldn't function in that environment ... nor would it be anywhere near as bright as it is if it weere simply reflecting the light of the sun.  Someone did the math there, and none of it adds up.
    People do get math wrong. Like how you seem to think the inverse square law always applies, but in reality it becomes almost useless when you get close to a light source. It is recommended in that case to assume the source of light is much further away than it really is because the calculation is for point sources of light, not broad surfaces which may extend out of sight at close distances.
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