Sungenis doesn't know Anything about Galileo case-- which is about PHYSICS, not Astronomy.
What Galileo did in 1616 was hardly original-- adopt the 3 part theory of Copernicus & demand that it be accepted as Dogma b4 there was any proof.
We now know that the first article of Copernicus( E rev around S) is true while articles 2( S is fixed in position) & 3( S is center of U) are false. So the Church was right to censor the mostly false Copernicanism.
See Pietro Redondi, Galileo Heretic for info on Galileo's errors re: Physics( atomism) & how this is related to Eucharist.
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Ah, roscoe, so you are human and not a machine. Ok, we know you think E revs around S, but some of us are certain that human observation cannot prove which orbits around which. But God does, and He says in his Bible that it is the universe that rotates around the Earth. Some of us believe this, others like yourself do not.
Now how good is your knowledge about the Galileo case? I see above you accept Redondi's version that it was about atomism, 'which is about physics, not astronomy.'
How many times do we have to show you guys have it all wrong. So desperate are you to falsify the actual events of 1616 and 1633 that you will grab at any chance to show us biblical geocentrists we are wrong on this or that and when we dermonstrater to everyone you get it wrong you ignore the corrections, and simply carry on in your illusions. It really bothers me how anybody can ignore facts and retain a certain belief. I, klas, Ladis and others were all educated to be heliocentrists, long-agers and evolutionists. But once we saw the evidence for them was totally biased on ideological grounds we began to see the truth was as Genesis told us.
So, as regards Redondi's thesis, well I too read his book but was not impressed or convinced. The facts of the Galileo case are out there, recorded in 6,000 books and all show the Church condemned Galileo's heliocentrism, NOT for anything to do with atomism.
Now I know you guys do not accept anything coming from us geocentrists, so I will quote the latest scholarly book on the subject, the most detailed ever written. It is in
Burned Alive, by the heliocentrist and as I gather from his books Catholic Church hater A Martinez.
'This letter's importance has been emphasised by historian Pietro Redondi, who argued that it shows how an informed reader quickly understood Galileo's work and, allegedly, that it reveals the relevance of the atomism of Democritus, [an evolution of atoms has happened, exactly as Fr Robinson, SSPX teaches, into the physical universe we observe]
which was distained as heretical. Historians have carefully analysed this argument, since an early manuscript report on Galileo's book of 1623, did discuss atomism. However, historians conclude that despite the significance of atomism in that early book, there is insufficient evidence that it was an issue when Inquisitors read Galileo's book of 1623.' p. 193 [Martinez probably meant Galileo's book of 1633, the cause of Galileo's trial.]