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Offline Donachie

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Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2022, 03:31:03 AM »
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  • This could be built up further to show the fixed stars of the ecliptic that all go from East to West around the Earth also. When the Moon, which is much closer to Earth and of much less celestial velocity, is considered in comparison to them, it provides another proof that the Earth is not moving and that the Sun orbits the Earth.

    The Moon is falling behind the signs much more immediately than the Sun and the Earth never "spins out" into the East from underneath the so-near Moon.

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #16 on: August 19, 2022, 11:33:33 AM »
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  • For the record, I have studied this interesting subject and am a fierce geocentrist.

    So much for Gladius_Cacas' imagined perspicacity.


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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #17 on: August 19, 2022, 12:23:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: Meg 8/18/2022, 12:09:39 PM
     I don't see that any detraction or calumny has occurred in the OP on this thread. In fact, the OP seems carefully worded so as to avoid that. Can you be more specific on exactly what you mean by belligerence, detraction, and calumny?
    I did not mention "on this thread".  I meant "in general".  Sorry for the confusion.

    Here are examples of such "in general":

    M79 made it crystal clear he has no interest whatsoever in the FE vs. GE debate (or FE at all).  Fair enough.  Conclusion: he is solidly GE.

    I continue to claim there is something, likely related to his profession, that renders him so sadly and massively blind in these important matters
    https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/m79-on-geocentrism'interesting'-what-about-heliocentrism/msg841339/#msg841339

    That you evade the issue even when directly questioned makes it plain to anyone with eyes to see that you are a Globe-Tard...and maybe even a Helio-centrist
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839632/#msg839632

    Whatever you say, Rabbi...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839624/#msg839624

    Oddly, this is the sort of comment that makes me wonder "Is this POS a Rabbi?"
    Why?  No Catholic would EVER act as if his adversarius, however hostile, was anything less than a fellow man and Catholic.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839603/#msg839603

    Please...remind everyone again how we know, if we know, that you are not a Rabbi/ex-rabbi/etc...
    For anyone might know what you know precisely because he is or has been INSIDE the SS...
    You have proved yourself to be Traddie how, exactly?  

    I will presume you are just another piece of Judaic trash seeking to infiltrate one of the last channels of truth.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839594/#msg839594

    Clearly you have NO EVIDENCE to support your "original" claim.  In the real world that makes you nothing but a liar.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg838223/#msg838223

    I added the words in bold, as I often do when quoting my ignorant/sloppy adversarii, for quoting incomplete/incorrect statements is irksome.  I don't usually tell them I have done so, for their stupidity is what it is and my time is better spent addressing their meaningful errors, not their grammatical slovenliness. Your lazy, ignorant ass is welcome.
    As for the statement, it is my sincere hope that you eventually grasp that I was neither addressing nor commenting about Mark.  So, kindly and forcefully shove it where the sun don't shine, so to speak, and know that I will, in my charity, forgive you in advance.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834612/#msg834612

    M79, professional child-trafficker/goat-herder that he is
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834595/#msg834595

    You, although probably the best of the stupids, are clearly just one of the many.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834371/#msg834371

    IF M79 didn't want to reveal his profession for reasons he wasn't willing to share, THAT is something I could respect.  The horseshit about fire-bombing someone who is already and absolutely anonymous, and acting as if my "Catholicity" hangs in the balance can only be called what it is: histrionic nonsense predicated upon delusional grandeur.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/men-only/mark79-and-'doxing'-bs/#msg834359

    Anyway, it is clear, as it is in the world at large, that I am trying to have a rational discussion with a bunch of feckin eejits.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830560/#msg830560

    F*CK you and the horse you rode in on, or did the horse ride you?  I know the answer and I know you enjoyed it, but that discussion is for another time, eh?
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/jhk-how-low-can-you-go/msg830540/#msg830540

    To my anti-fans: Thank you for proving my point and in such a timely manner.  May you choke on your own vomit, God willing, or die whatever miserable, untimely death you prefer.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830532/#msg830532

    Regardless of whether or not Matthew actually reexamines his policy and sees the proverbial light, you silent, mindless f*ckers are as likely to see the Restoration as those dumb-shits who gleefully took The Jab.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830530/#msg830530

    Utterly f*cking stoo-pidd application and implementation of a completely absurd idea/policy
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/#msg830521

    y'all are a bunch of mindless, spineless, emotion-driven sacks of rancid, worm-infested dog-shit. 
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830517/#msg830517

    She is a blind, self-absorbed idiot, nothing more.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/mother-films-young-child-getting-jabbed-and-eventually-dying/msg830316/#msg830316

    If you want to visit, I will send you my address.  Maybe you and M79 can come and we can get it on until dawn, ya know?  I will teach you to respect others, just before I do things that Matthew probably prefers I do not mention...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/i-have-to-admit/msg834605/#msg834605





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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #18 on: August 19, 2022, 01:38:28 PM »
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  • The Moon also does not rotate. It always has the same face facing the Earth as it goes from east to west around the Earth in about 24 hours and 54 minutes. NASA pretends that it rotates in perfect synchronicity with the Earth all the time, so you can't tell, as the Earth is spinning 1040 mph into the east along the equator. Rather I think it does not rotate and neither does the Earth.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #19 on: August 19, 2022, 05:28:50 PM »
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  • The Moon also does not rotate. It always has the same face facing the Earth as it goes from east to west around the Earth in about 24 hours and 54 minutes. NASA pretends that it rotates in perfect synchronicity with the Earth all the time, so you can't tell, as the Earth is spinning 1040 mph into the east along the equator. Rather I think it does not rotate and neither does the Earth.

    Indeed.  I find it preposterous that the moon would "rotate" at PRECISELY (to the second) the same rate as it "revolves" around the earth.  If it were just a second per day off, the face of the moon would gradually change over the years and decades and centuries.  Plus, science claims that the moon gets a few inches per year farther away from the earth.  That would require it to increase its speed of rotation to keep this going.


    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #20 on: August 19, 2022, 08:01:08 PM »
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  • I did not mention "on this thread".  I meant "in general".  Sorry for the confusion.

    Here are examples of such "in general":

    M79 made it crystal clear he has no interest whatsoever in the FE vs. GE debate (or FE at all).  Fair enough.  Conclusion: he is solidly GE.

    I continue to claim there is something, likely related to his profession, that renders him so sadly and massively blind in these important matters
    https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/m79-on-geocentrism'interesting'-what-about-heliocentrism/msg841339/#msg841339

    That you evade the issue even when directly questioned makes it plain to anyone with eyes to see that you are a Globe-Tard...and maybe even a Helio-centrist
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839632/#msg839632

    Whatever you say, Rabbi...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839624/#msg839624

    Oddly, this is the sort of comment that makes me wonder "Is this POS a Rabbi?"
    Why?  No Catholic would EVER act as if his adversarius, however hostile, was anything less than a fellow man and Catholic.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839603/#msg839603

    Please...remind everyone again how we know, if we know, that you are not a Rabbi/ex-rabbi/etc...
    For anyone might know what you know precisely because he is or has been INSIDE the SS...
    You have proved yourself to be Traddie how, exactly? 

    I will presume you are just another piece of Judaic trash seeking to infiltrate one of the last channels of truth.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839594/#msg839594

    Clearly you have NO EVIDENCE to support your "original" claim.  In the real world that makes you nothing but a liar.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg838223/#msg838223

    I added the words in bold, as I often do when quoting my ignorant/sloppy adversarii, for quoting incomplete/incorrect statements is irksome.  I don't usually tell them I have done so, for their stupidity is what it is and my time is better spent addressing their meaningful errors, not their grammatical slovenliness. Your lazy, ignorant ass is welcome.
    As for the statement, it is my sincere hope that you eventually grasp that I was neither addressing nor commenting about Mark.  So, kindly and forcefully shove it where the sun don't shine, so to speak, and know that I will, in my charity, forgive you in advance.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834612/#msg834612

    M79, professional child-trafficker/goat-herder that he is
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834595/#msg834595

    You, although probably the best of the stupids, are clearly just one of the many.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834371/#msg834371

    IF M79 didn't want to reveal his profession for reasons he wasn't willing to share, THAT is something I could respect.  The horseshit about fire-bombing someone who is already and absolutely anonymous, and acting as if my "Catholicity" hangs in the balance can only be called what it is: histrionic nonsense predicated upon delusional grandeur.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/men-only/mark79-and-'doxing'-bs/#msg834359

    Anyway, it is clear, as it is in the world at large, that I am trying to have a rational discussion with a bunch of feckin eejits.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830560/#msg830560

    F*CK you and the horse you rode in on, or did the horse ride you?  I know the answer and I know you enjoyed it, but that discussion is for another time, eh?
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/jhk-how-low-can-you-go/msg830540/#msg830540

    To my anti-fans: Thank you for proving my point and in such a timely manner.  May you choke on your own vomit, God willing, or die whatever miserable, untimely death you prefer.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830532/#msg830532

    Regardless of whether or not Matthew actually reexamines his policy and sees the proverbial light, you silent, mindless f*ckers are as likely to see the Restoration as those dumb-shits who gleefully took The Jab.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830530/#msg830530

    Utterly f*cking stoo-pidd application and implementation of a completely absurd idea/policy
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/#msg830521

    y'all are a bunch of mindless, spineless, emotion-driven sacks of rancid, worm-infested dog-shit.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830517/#msg830517

    She is a blind, self-absorbed idiot, nothing more.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/mother-films-young-child-getting-jabbed-and-eventually-dying/msg830316/#msg830316

    If you want to visit, I will send you my address.  Maybe you and M79 can come and we can get it on until dawn, ya know?  I will teach you to respect others, just before I do things that Matthew probably prefers I do not mention...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/i-have-to-admit/msg834605/#msg834605

    Yikes, such impeccable and non-violent Catholicity.

    See my "heliocentrism" here: http://judaism.is/cosmology.html  :jester:

    Offline Meg

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #21 on: August 20, 2022, 09:39:40 AM »
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  • I did not mention "on this thread".  I meant "in general".  Sorry for the confusion.

    I find that difficult to believe. You quoted the OP (OF THIS THREAD!) in your post in which you accused gv of belligerence, calumny, and detraction. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #22 on: August 20, 2022, 12:26:10 PM »
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  • I find that difficult to believe. You quoted the OP (OF THIS THREAD!) in your post in which you accused gv of belligerence, calumny, and detraction.

    You accuse me of inciting violence here. I asked you to provide verbatim quotes to support your latest bullshit accusation. You have provided no verbatim quotes. So typical of a "basket case" shrew to levy hysterical and unsupportable insults.  Yet…



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    I continue to claim there is something, likely related to his profession, that renders him so sadly and massively blind in these important matters
    https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/m79-on-geocentrism'interesting'-what-about-heliocentrism/msg841339/#msg841339

    That you evade the issue even when directly questioned makes it plain to anyone with eyes to see that you are a Globe-Tard...and maybe even a Helio-centrist
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839632/#msg839632

    Whatever you say, Rabbi...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839624/#msg839624

    Oddly, this is the sort of comment that makes me wonder "Is this POS a Rabbi?"
    Why?  No Catholic would EVER act as if his adversarius, however hostile, was anything less than a fellow man and Catholic.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839603/#msg839603

    Please...remind everyone again how we know, if we know, that you are not a Rabbi/ex-rabbi/etc...
    For anyone might know what you know precisely because he is or has been INSIDE the SS...
    You have proved yourself to be Traddie how, exactly?

    I will presume you are just another piece of Judaic trash seeking to infiltrate one of the last channels of truth.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg839594/#msg839594

    Clearly you have NO EVIDENCE to support your "original" claim.  In the real world that makes you nothing but a liar.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg838223/#msg838223

    I added the words in bold, as I often do when quoting my ignorant/sloppy adversarii, for quoting incomplete/incorrect statements is irksome.  I don't usually tell them I have done so, for their stupidity is what it is and my time is better spent addressing their meaningful errors, not their grammatical slovenliness. Your lazy, ignorant ass is welcome.
    As for the statement, it is my sincere hope that you eventually grasp that I was neither addressing nor commenting about Mark.  So, kindly and forcefully shove it where the sun don't shine, so to speak, and know that I will, in my charity, forgive you in advance.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834612/#msg834612

    M79, professional child-trafficker/goat-herder that he is
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834595/#msg834595

    You, although probably the best of the stupids, are clearly just one of the many.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/ss-news/msg834371/#msg834371

    IF M79 didn't want to reveal his profession for reasons he wasn't willing to share, THAT is something I could respect.  The horseshit about fire-bombing someone who is already and absolutely anonymous, and acting as if my "Catholicity" hangs in the balance can only be called what it is: histrionic nonsense predicated upon delusional grandeur.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/men-only/mark79-and-'doxing'-bs/#msg834359

    Anyway, it is clear, as it is in the world at large, that I am trying to have a rational discussion with a bunch of feckin eejits.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830560/#msg830560

    F*CK you and the horse you rode in on, or did the horse ride you?  I know the answer and I know you enjoyed it, but that discussion is for another time, eh?
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/jhk-how-low-can-you-go/msg830540/#msg830540

    To my anti-fans: Thank you for proving my point and in such a timely manner.  May you choke on your own vomit, God willing, or die whatever miserable, untimely death you prefer.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830532/#msg830532

    Regardless of whether or not Matthew actually reexamines his policy and sees the proverbial light, you silent, mindless f*ckers are as likely to see the Restoration as those dumb-shits who gleefully took The Jab.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830530/#msg830530

    Utterly f*cking stoo-pidd application and implementation of a completely absurd idea/policy
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/#msg830521

    y'all are a bunch of mindless, spineless, emotion-driven sacks of rancid, worm-infested dog-shit.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/thumbs-updown-limits/msg830517/#msg830517

    She is a blind, self-absorbed idiot, nothing more.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/mother-films-young-child-getting-jabbed-and-eventually-dying/msg830316/#msg830316

    If you want to visit, I will send you my address.  Maybe you and M79 can come and we can get it on until dawn, ya know?  I will teach you to respect others, just before I do things that Matthew probably prefers I do not mention...
    https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/i-have-to-admit/msg834605/#msg834605



    Offline Meg

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #23 on: August 20, 2022, 12:39:06 PM »
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  • You accuse me of inciting violence here. I asked you to provide verbatim quotes to support your latest bullshit accusation. You have provided no verbatim quotes. So typical of a "basket case" shrew to levy hysterical and unsupportable insults.  Yet…

    I have not accused you of inciting violence here. You are lying.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #24 on: August 20, 2022, 12:51:26 PM »
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  • This argument has been ongoing for almost a week now. I would expect this behavior from women, but not men.

    Put aside your pride, forgive, and GET OVER IT.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

    Offline Tradman

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #25 on: August 20, 2022, 12:56:46 PM »
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  • The Moon also does not rotate. It always has the same face facing the Earth as it goes from east to west around the Earth in about 24 hours and 54 minutes. NASA pretends that it rotates in perfect synchronicity with the Earth all the time, so you can't tell, as the Earth is spinning 1040 mph into the east along the equator. Rather I think it does not rotate and neither does the Earth.
    That's right, the moon doesn't rotate.  It rolls like a wheel almost 180 degrees every night that it's visible.    


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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #26 on: August 20, 2022, 02:00:45 PM »
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  • I find that difficult to believe. You quoted the OP (OF THIS THREAD!) in your post in which you accused gv of belligerence, calumny, and detraction.
    :facepalm:

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #27 on: August 20, 2022, 06:10:53 PM »
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  • I have not accused you of inciting violence here. You are lying.



    I believe you, but I'm quite surprised that you've never been incarcerated, given your pathological vicious attacks on those here with whom you disagree. You can have a great deal of violence in your words against other forum members. Why is that?

    "Can have"? Shrewish bullshit.

    If you accuse me of inciting violence or perpetrating violence, you are the liar.

    Cite verbatim and link where I have have "a great deal of violence in [my] words against other forum members."

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #28 on: August 20, 2022, 09:20:32 PM »
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  • This argument has been ongoing for almost a week now. I would expect this behavior from women, but not men.

    Put aside your pride, forgive, and GET OVER IT.

    So not only has Mark been going after me, he's going after Meg, has been going after gladius.  There seems to be a common denominator here.

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    Re: M79 on Geocentrism:"interesting" - What about Heliocentrism?
    « Reply #29 on: August 20, 2022, 09:38:10 PM »
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  • Yikes, such impeccable and non-violent Catholicity.

    See my "heliocentrism" here: http://judaism.is/cosmology.html  :jester:
    I really don't understand why Matthew allows such talk from GV on a supposedly Catholic website, trad Catholic to boot, Resistance Trad Catholic which trumps all...