Author Topic: Interesting flat earth plane flights video (Read 19921 times)

BTNYC · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2015, 11:56:23 AM »

Getting back to the topic at hand:

Why is it that ships don't merely "fade" into the horizon, but actually drop beneath it?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/dV0h68YU0iQ[/youtube]

Also, have you ever looked through binoculars at tall buildings across a wide span of water? Why are only the upper parts of the buildings visible? Why not the streets and bottoms of the buildings?

Also, if anecdotal evidence counts for anything, I've observed the curvature of the earth with my own two eyes during travel on an airplane.

BTNYC · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:11:59 PM »

Also, I'm interested in hearing an explanation for fata morgana mirages according to a flat earth model.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/maLRhoceeuc[/youtube]

McFiggly · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:13:36 PM »

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Getting back to the topic at hand:

Why is it that ships don't merely "fade" into the horizon, but actually drop beneath it?

Law of perspective, vanishing point.

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Also, if anecdotal evidence counts for anything, I've observed the curvature of the earth with my own two eyes during travel on an airplane.

Are you sure you weren't looking through a curved window? There's images of taken from much higher up than planes go where the horizon looks flat. You have to be careful not to get fooled by fisheye lenses too, that always create curves even on flat surfaces.

BTNYC · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:19:11 PM »

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Getting back to the topic at hand:

Why is it that ships don't merely "fade" into the horizon, but actually drop beneath it?

Law of perspective, vanishing point.

I was trained in commercial illustration. I know what a vanishing point is. It is the point at which all "lines" in perspective on a flat plane converge into a point of vanishment.

Ships receding in the distance, as seen in the video, do not merely shrink until they vanish, they dip below the horizon, which has nothing at all to do with "vanishing points."

McFiggly · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:20:43 PM »

The funniest thing is that there aren't any images of earth from space other than those taken decades ago during the Apollo mission which many deem to have been faked. You think with the thousands of satellites supposedly being up there we would have countless images of earth from space, but go on Google images and apart from the famous Apollo photos, you will find paintings, cartoons, and what NASA admits to being "composite" computer generated images, not photographs.

BTNYC · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:21:39 PM »

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Are you sure you weren't looking through a curved window? There's images of taken from much higher up than planes go where the horizon looks flat. You have to be careful not to get fooled by fisheye lenses too, that always create curves even on flat surfaces.

If it was a distortion caused by the window, then it was a very selectively distorting window. The horizon did not look curved at ground level, or at lower altitudes. It did when we were travelling at a very high altitude.

McFiggly · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:27:55 PM »

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Getting back to the topic at hand:

Why is it that ships don't merely "fade" into the horizon, but actually drop beneath it?

Law of perspective, vanishing point.

I was trained in commercial illustration. I know what a vanishing point is. It is the point at which all "lines" in perspective on a flat plane converge into a point of vanishment.

Ships receding in the distance, as seen in the video, do not merely shrink until they vanish, they dip below the horizon, which has nothing at all to do with "vanishing points."

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Ships+appear+to+sink+as+they+recede+past+the+horizon

BTNYC · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:29:54 PM »

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The funniest thing is that there aren't any images of earth from space other than those taken decades ago during the Apollo mission which many deem to have been faked. You think with the thousands of satellites supposedly being up there we would have countless images of earth from space, but go on Google images and apart from the famous Apollo photos, you will find paintings, cartoons, and what NASA admits to being "composite" computer generated images, not photographs.

Do you mean the entire earth captured in a single photograph? I would imagine satellites are not sufficiently far from the planet to capture such an image.

Atheists often argue that the absence of any physical remains of the walls of Jericho "proves" that there never was a wall, that there never was a Jericho, and by extension, that Sacred Scriptures contain fictional accounts. The fallacy they commit here, of course, is to assume that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Let's not hold them to a standard to which we would not hold ourselves.

BTNYC · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2015, 12:43:00 PM »

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Quote from: BTNYC
Getting back to the topic at hand:

Why is it that ships don't merely "fade" into the horizon, but actually drop beneath it?

Law of perspective, vanishing point.

I was trained in commercial illustration. I know what a vanishing point is. It is the point at which all "lines" in perspective on a flat plane converge into a point of vanishment.

Ships receding in the distance, as seen in the video, do not merely shrink until they vanish, they dip below the horizon, which has nothing at all to do with "vanishing points."

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Ships+appear+to+sink+as+they+recede+past+the+horizon

Anything to explain a fata morgana? Preferably an article, and not a meme-filled video for 14 year olds?

Disputaciones · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2015, 01:00:04 PM »

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Are you sure you weren't looking through a curved window? There's images of taken from much higher up than planes go where the horizon looks flat. You have to be careful not to get fooled by fisheye lenses too, that always create curves even on flat surfaces.

If it was a distortion caused by the window, then it was a very selectively distorting window. The horizon did not look curved at ground level, or at lower altitudes. It did when we were travelling at a very high altitude.

Fisheye lenses.

I have seen a video about a plane flying around without fisheye lenses and the horizon looks totally flat.

In an old thread you quoted Isaias to McFiggly, where the Challoner versions reads "globe" of the earth, but he pointed out that the original 16th century Douay reads "compass" of the earth, which would agree with flat earth, but you said nothing of this.

McFiggly · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2015, 01:00:27 PM »

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Are you sure you weren't looking through a curved window? There's images of taken from much higher up than planes go where the horizon looks flat. You have to be careful not to get fooled by fisheye lenses too, that always create curves even on flat surfaces.

If it was a distortion caused by the window, then it was a very selectively distorting window. The horizon did not look curved at ground level, or at lower altitudes. It did when we were travelling at a very high altitude.

Sorry, I don't have anything for the mirage you are talking about. I think people say that it has something to do with the refraction of light.

Marlelar · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2015, 01:07:52 PM »

What about all the videos from the space station? The portion of earth that can be seen looks curved to me.

BTNYC · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2015, 01:12:07 PM »

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Sorry, I don't have anything for the mirage you are talking about. I think people say that it has something to do with the refraction of light.

It does indeed. In environments of extreme cold or extreme heat (like the desert seen in the video I posted), light rays can become refracted at a degree greater than the curvature of the earth, allowing an observer to see an image of a very distant object which, due to the curvature of the earth, would otherwise not be visible (like the bus seen in the video).

Disputaciones · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2015, 01:38:06 PM »

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What about all the videos from the space station? The portion of earth that can be seen looks curved to me.

Watch this video:

Astronauts Gone Wild

Petertherock · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2015, 02:00:38 PM »

I can't believe I am reading this on a forum that is supposed to have intelligent people on it. If anyone really believes the Earth is flat then you should be locked up in a rubber room with a strait jacket.