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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: How we know the world is round
« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2017, 11:13:23 AM »
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  • :facepalm: You just can't make this kind of stuff up!
    With all due, try telling that to them.

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    Offline Recusant Sede

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #106 on: September 22, 2017, 11:23:48 AM »
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  • How so? It's the USGS flat earth map.
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    When the sun is circuiting above the Tropic of Cancer, it' summer in the north.
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    When the sun is circuiting above the Tropic of Capricorn, it's winter in the north.
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    Simple.
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    This is how you know the sun is NOT 93,000,000 miles away: when the sun is only a few thousand miles further south over Capricorn, we have winter. The sun has to be CLOSE to keep you warm. At a distance of 93,000,000 miles a difference of only a few thousand would have no effect whatsoever, and would not give you any change of seasons.

    Let me help you..... you responded to two videos (actual irrefutable time lapse videos) that prove that the sun doesn’t set in the summer of the Arctic nor the Antarctic. This is impossible if the Earth is flat. You responded by posting a flat earth model video about "seasons" that is in contradiction to the time laspe videos.


    Offline DZ PLEASE

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #107 on: September 22, 2017, 11:29:47 AM »
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  • silly empirical data... meanwhile, let's rip on NASA for shady images of "impossible" things.

    Offline Student of Qi

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #108 on: September 22, 2017, 01:28:42 PM »
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  • Nail in the coffin!

    Summer in the Arctic...




    Summer in the Antarctic...


    I kind of found the first video sort of suspenseful, and kept waiting for the sun to set but it never did.
    This same phenomena can be seen in Alaska and Finland, etc.
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    Offline Recusant Sede

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #109 on: September 22, 2017, 01:54:23 PM »
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  • Let me help you..... you responded to two videos (actual irrefutable time lapse videos) that prove that the sun doesn’t set in the summer of the Arctic nor the Antarctic. This is impossible if the Earth is flat. You responded by posting a flat earth model video about "seasons" that is in contradiction to the time laspe videos.
    I said: “This is impossible if the Earth is flat". This is actually wrong, the sun would never set anywhere on a flat Earth. In any event the contradiction is still present and exposes the flat Earth theory as a complete illogical mess.


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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #110 on: September 22, 2017, 02:47:37 PM »
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    You forgot to mention those silly amateur videos have already been thoroughly debunked from start to finish.
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    Of course, you would deliberately leave that part out because you're still trying to deceive the gullible.
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    Having fun?
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    Neil,
    They have not been debunked at all. Please provide references of this so called debunking. Everybody is still waiting for you to explain where the missing 500 feet went to in the first video. You just didn't respond, so it stands to reason you won't even look at the other two.

    These provide proof that there is no curvature on the flat earth.
    Being paid, most likely, for your contributions here on Cathinfo, you have a vested interest in saying silly, unsubstantiated things like this. Throw enough mud and some of it will stick.

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #111 on: September 22, 2017, 03:37:43 PM »
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  • I said: “This is impossible if the Earth is flat". This is actually wrong, the sun would never set anywhere on a flat Earth. In any event the contradiction is still present and exposes the flat Earth theory as a complete illogical mess.
    You must be new here.
    The sun is never visible over the entire flat plane of the earth. This is due to the law of perspective and has been discussed a lot.
    The sun is moving in a level line above the flat plane on a circuit (a circle).
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    See 1:16-1:29.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #112 on: September 22, 2017, 04:26:15 PM »
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  • You must be new here.
    The sun is never visible over the entire flat plane of the earth. This is due to the law of perspective and has been discussed a lot.
    The sun is moving in a level line above the flat plane on a circuit (a circle).
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    See 1:16-1:29.
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    If you look at the older flat Earth threads you will see I've debated this a year or two ago. I knew you would ignore the 24 hour sun videos when I posted the above and that you would bring up that idiotic, nonsensical junk science about perspective....you have nothing on Al Gore. 
    Sorry to be harsh on you, but you are spreading error and you are making traditionalists look ridiculous....now please explain the Arctic and Antarctic videos that show that the sun never sets in the summer.....


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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #113 on: September 22, 2017, 04:31:07 PM »
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  • If you look at the older flat Earth threads you will see I've debated this a year or two ago. I knew you would ignore the 24 hour sun videos when I posted the above and that you would bring up that idiotic, nonsensical junk science about perspective....you have nothing on Al Gore.
    Sorry to be harsh on you, but you are spreading error and you are making traditionalists look ridiculous....now please explain the Arctic and Antarctic videos that show that the sun never sets in the summer.....
    Because this can only be done in the extreme north (Arctic) or extreme south (Antarctic) since the viewer is able to track the sun its entire 360 degree circuit due to the sun's proximity and the better sight lines for the horizon. This is very straightforward.

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #114 on: September 22, 2017, 04:47:00 PM »
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  • Because this can only be done in the extreme north (Arctic) or extreme south (Antarctic) since the viewer is able to track the sun its entire 360 degree circuit due to the sun's proximity and the better sight lines for the horizon. This is very straightforward.
    But, according to your map, the Arctic is found in the middle of the Earth not at either extreme......give it up.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #115 on: September 22, 2017, 05:03:00 PM »
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  • Neil,
    They have not been debunked at all. Please provide references of this so called debunking. Everybody is still waiting for you to explain where the missing 500 feet went to in the first video. You just didn't respond, so it stands to reason you won't even look at the other two.

    These provide proof that there is no curvature on the flat earth.
    Being paid, most likely, for your contributions here on Cathinfo, you have a vested interest in saying silly, unsubstantiated things like this. Throw enough mud and some of it will stick.
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    Yes, they most certainly HAVE been debunked from start to finish, kiwiboy-with-alzheimer's. 
    If you can't remember my earlier responses where I went to the trouble of repeating my annotations of those silly videos, why then would you be able to recognize them if I were to do it yet again?
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    You don't hear my answer the first time, or the second time so why would you hear it the third time?
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    There is no "missing 500 feet" as you say, the elevation above sea level at the top of the hill is not included in the calculation for the view at a distance, and the proximity of the water to the shoreline videos is not recognized in regards to how it obscures the view of the distant hills. This is why a sailor climbed into the crow's nest to see afar off, because from up there he got a view that those down on the deck were incapable of getting. Ships with crow's nests were able to win naval battles, so that's why they had them and used them. On a "flat" earth a crow's nest wouldn't make enough difference to make it an advantage.
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    These videos provide no proof whatsoever because they're cheap, amateurish nonsense. 

    Who is paying you for your posts here? Why do you bother? If you were not being paid you would have to be an idiot. 
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    Okay, then maybe that's the answer. I rest my case.
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    You're just flailing in the wind, accomplishing nothing, and being rude in the process.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #116 on: September 22, 2017, 05:10:52 PM »
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    Yes, they most certainly HAVE been debunked from start to finish, kiwiboy-with-alzheimer's.
    If you can't remember my earlier responses where I went to the trouble of repeating my annotations of those silly videos, why then would you be able to recognize them if I were to do it yet again?
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    You don't hear my answer the first time, or the second time so why would you hear it the third time?
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    There is no "missing 500 feet" as you say, the elevation above sea level at the top of the hill is not included in the calculation for the view at a distance, and the proximity of the water to the shoreline videos is not recognized in regards to how it obscures the view of the distant hills. This is why a sailor climbed into the crow's nest to see afar off, because from up there he got a view that those down on the deck were incapable of getting. Ships with crow's nests were able to win naval battles, so that's why they had them and used them. On a "flat" earth a crow's nest wouldn't make enough difference to make it an advantage.
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    These videos provide no proof whatsoever because they're cheap, amateurish nonsense.
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    Who is paying you for your posts here? Why do you bother? If you were not being paid you would have to be an idiot.
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    Okay, then maybe that's the answer. I rest my case.
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    You're just flailing in the wind, accomplishing nothing, and being rude in the process.
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    If I ask you what time you are going to the mall today and you say "the sky is blue", you have responded to my question, but you haven't answered it. It is the same with you Neil. You make a response but don't actually answer the question.
    Everything is included in the calculation and you can see that full well. You are now lying through your teeth. Unless you are trying to refer to the picture taken from on high, which is only for comparative purposes, in which case you are being deceptive in the extreme.
    Either way, you are not facing up to the facts; We should not be seeing these objects.
    Don't know how you do your job at NASA well with this level ignoring hard facts.

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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #117 on: September 22, 2017, 05:15:59 PM »
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    Certainly one of the several flat-earther experts here on this thread can answer the questions.
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    Why is the moon dark on the bottom side, here, where someone in Australia would see it?
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    How does someone in Australia see a full moon when they look up and see a dark moon?
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    Alternatively (and most likely!) you can run away from these questions like you have done so often recently.
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    Maybe these questions are just too difficult for you. If so, just say so, and then I'll stop asking them.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #118 on: September 22, 2017, 05:23:15 PM »
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  • If I ask you what time you are going to the mall today and you say "the sky is blue", you have responded to my question, but you haven't answered it. It is the same with you Neil. You make a response but don't actually answer the question.
    Everything is included in the calculation and you can see that full well. You are now lying through your teeth. Unless you are trying to refer to the picture taken from on high, which is only for comparative purposes, in which case you are being deceptive in the extreme.
    Either way, you are not facing up to the facts; We should not be seeing these objects.
    Don't know how you do your job at NASA well with this level ignoring hard facts.
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    You are either falling for the deception of the author or you don't know how to use the calculations any better than the author did.
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    Everything is NOT included in the calculation, and perhaps you CAN'T see that full well, I don't know, but in any case, you're missing out.
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    You miss out and you like it that way because then you can run on and on with your unsupportable self-deception of flat-earthism which is your golden-calf-false-god idol, which you worship.
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    You worship your false god fantasy while ignoring the obvious right before your eyes, and refuse to recognize the obvious all the while claiming something else is "obvious" with your nose-to-the-canvas outlook unable to see the big picture.
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    God does not require us to believe something when our 5 senses and our mind reveal to us the contrary.
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    We are not required to deny reality and believe in a subjective fantasy, regardless of WHAT it is.
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    And one such subjective fantasy is flat-earthism, which cannot be supported by the simplest of observations.
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    Re: How we know the world is round
    « Reply #119 on: September 22, 2017, 05:35:42 PM »
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  • If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circuмference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.
    Bedford Level Experiment: Proof of no curvature