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Offline DigitalLogos

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Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2023, 10:54:03 AM »
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  • Honest question for FE's:
    How is it possible that in June's solstice people in the north coasts of Alaska, Canada, Iceland, Finland and Russia can all see the sun at the same time, circling 360° just above the horizon? Can anyone draw a sketch to explain this phenomenon?
    The sun in its circuit would be closest to the north pole, meaning those areas would see the sun in the manner you speak of.

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

    Offline Mark 79

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #31 on: February 11, 2023, 11:00:14 AM »
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  • Mark, Quo Vadis, and Yeti...… you demand detailed explanations.  ??  …

    I have nor "demanded" one damn thing.

    I finally have a glimmer of interest in a subject that has you in thrall and you give me a ration. Wouldn't you expect a newbie to have some questions?


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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #32 on: February 11, 2023, 11:06:57 AM »
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  • Yes, there's an Antarctic Treaty that has been signed by all the nations of the world since, I think it was, 1959 or thereabouts.  That by itself is suspicious.  Riboni sailed around 50 degrees south, and these sailing races around the globe never go farther south than about 55.

    I've seen some videos, one where a few guys in a mid-sized boat try to go south of 60 to see how far they could get, and they were intercepted and told to turn around by a large warship, and the other where a couple guys in a plane try to fly down there, and they were met with a fighter jet and escorted back to base.  Once at the base, the pilot questioned the base commander, asking whether if he had refused to comply, he would have been shot down, and the commander responded in the affirmative.  So there goes the motivation of keeping people safe.  Also, in 1959, environmentalism wasn't even "a thing," so the modern excuse of it being to protect the environment is utter nonsense.  US, Russia, and many others would have been vying to see who could exploit the natural resources (which Admiral Byrd said were plentiful) down there, and not signing a treaty during the Cold War (with every nation in the world) to keep Antarctica off limits.

    WOW!  That's really wild.

    Funny image comes to mind… the antagonism being directed at Musk for wanting to go to Mars.… his rocket hits the ceiling. [klunk!]

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #33 on: February 11, 2023, 11:07:41 AM »
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  • Honest question for FE's:
    How is it possible that in June's solstice people in the north coasts of Alaska, Canada, Iceland, Finland and Russia can all see the sun at the same time, circling 360° just above the horizon? Can anyone draw a sketch to explain this phenomenon?

    On the FE model, the North Pole area is actually a very small region, and there's no issue.  Where the question comes in is with the "South Pole".  According to the FE hypothesis, Antarctica is actually a ring around the rest of the earth, an ice wall that keeps the oceans contained.  If the prevailing FE model is correct, there can't be a 24-hour sun the same way as there would be in the North.  Videos that claim to show the 24-hour sun from Antarctica have been proven to be doctored, with either portions of them clipped out or where the identical clouds are seen at the beginning and the end of an alleged circuit while watching the sun.

    Bottom line, however, is that one of the world long-distance photographs shows a light-house that's about 150 feet above the ocean from over 200 miles away.  These photos were not taken by flat earthers, but by photographers who had no agenda.  If you do the math for the "globe", it should have been hidden by many miles of "curvature".  So, the only comeback the globe-earthers have is this magical concept of "refraction".  But refraction is absolutely impossible over 200+ miles.  This would mean that absolutely every portion of the 200 miles would have to have the exact rate of refraction.  If any stretches refracted just a bit less, then they would block your view to the ultimate target.  If any stretches refracted just a bit more, it would refract everything upward out of view.  So you would need a perfectly consistent rate of refraction over 200 miles, which is statistically impossible.  Also, Dr. John D has done two-way laser experiments, in public, livestreamed, with observers on site, where if refraction were responsible, due to a constantly increasing density along the path, then on the way back there would be constantly decreasing density, and thus the light would be refracted up even further out of view than it would be without refraction.  Refraction is Dead on Arrival as convenient deus ex machina explanation for these phenomena.  Not to mention that refraction would cause images to be distorted, blurry, often upside down, etc.  If someone were to posit some force that somehow bent light directly around the globe, such as the earth's electromagnetic charge, I would be open to it.  But refraction is utter garbage as an "explanation" for the FE phenomenon.

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #34 on: February 11, 2023, 11:12:49 AM »
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  • … I can sense another global(!) war shaping up (pun intended) over the shape of the earth again this Lent! Let's go!

    Hmmmm… I'll have to purge the word "global" from my vocabulary.  Discal War 3 has already begun.


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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #35 on: February 11, 2023, 11:14:11 AM »
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  • WOW!  That's really wild.

    Funny image comes to mind… the antagonism being directed at Musk for wanting to go to Mars.… his rocket hits the ceiling. [klunk!]

    Speaking of FakeX, when that Tesla was allegedly in space, there was a momentary glitch in the video which showed that the car was still in the studio on the rack where it was prior to it allegedly being in space.  Even Musk made the comment, "It looks so fake, it has to be real.  We have better CGI than this."

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #36 on: February 11, 2023, 11:15:00 AM »
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  • Hmmmm… I'll have to purge the word "global" from my vocabulary.  Discal War 3 has already begun.

    Yes, the temptation is always there to refer to those who believe earth is a globe as "globalists".

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #37 on: February 11, 2023, 11:18:22 AM »
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  • Speaking of FakeX, when that Tesla was allegedly in space, there was a momentary glitch in the video which showed that the car was still in the studio on the rack where it was prior to it allegedly being in space.  Even Musk made the comment, "It looks so fake, it has to be real.  We have better CGI than this."
    Context:
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #38 on: February 11, 2023, 11:19:49 AM »
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  • Context:

    Thanks.  I'll try to find the video, but at one point it glitched (just for a few frames) where the earth disappeared and you could see some of the same stuff from that picture behind the vehicle.

    EDIT:  here it is.

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #39 on: February 11, 2023, 11:24:18 AM »
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  • You theorize that density is due to gravity.  I don't believe gravity exists, but attribute it to electromagnetic charge.  There's a video in circulation of an MIT professor who says the same thing, that on earth thing move down because of electric charge and not gravity.

    But what causes the directionality is independent of the question and has nothing to do with the question, which I answered adequately.  I was asked why there's inhomogeneity in the atmosphere under a firmament, and the answer is due to density, and has absolutely nothing to do with a dispute over what causes density / buoyancy (which is a well known phenomenon accepted by all).

    This is yet another misdirection.

    Atmosphere is a mixture of gases (and water vapor and pollutants), each of which has different properties. I am still at pains*** to explain why there is a gradient of pressure of this [relatively] homogeneous mixture according to altitude.

    Whether a global or flat model, it's not like gravity or electrical properties dropped all the Argon at my toes and suspended all the Helium at the peak of Mt. Everest.

    ***I am also at pains to understand nuclear forces of subatomic particles. Many unanswered questions no matter the model.

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #40 on: February 11, 2023, 11:26:24 AM »
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  • Yes, the temptation is always there to refer to those who believe earth is a globe as "globalists".

    Good one! As with much humor, there is truth. Globalists indeed are the ones who serve Satan's deceptions. Perfect.


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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #41 on: February 11, 2023, 11:29:45 AM »
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  • Atmosphere is a mixture of gases (and water vapor and pollutants), each of which has different properties. I am still at pains*** to explain why there is a gradient of pressure of this [relatively] homogeneous mixture according to altitude.

    Whether a global or flat model, it's not like gravity or electrical properties dropped all the Argon at my toes and suspended all the Helium at the peak of Mt. Everest.

    ***I am also at pains to understand nuclear forces of subatomic particles. Many unanswered questions no matter the model.

    I get it.  This question isn't unique to FE.  Traditional explanation is gravity, but I'm not really buying it.  There's certainly density.  You can see that just by letting a helium balloon go.  But what exactly causes the directionality ... it's not completely certain.  I tend to think it has to do with electric charge somehow, but I don't believe in a separate "force" called gravity.  But in both cases, you have modern science posturing as if they had certainty about it, when it's just all theory.  Gravity simply fails on the cosmological level, assuming their overall cosmology, so they had to invent dark matter to explain away the problem.

    Many top physicists have begun to question the existence of gravity, so it's not just "FE kooks".  I like the electric universe model myself.

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #42 on: February 11, 2023, 11:30:43 AM »
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  • Mark, Quo Vadis, and Yeti...
    All 3 of you have no problem "going with your gut" and concluding that "V2 popes aren't real popes" even if all the details/explanations aren't worked out (that's the job of theologians of the future).

    But yet, when the *same people* (i.e. V2 supporting globalists) push the lie about the "globe earth" you demand detailed explanations.  ??  It makes no sense.

    Open your eyes...the same satanist globalists who are behind the infiltration in the Church are behind the infiltration in sciences.  The main difference being that they infiltrated sciences around the 1600s, which was 400 years earlier than the Church, so that the "science lies" they tell are much more "fine tuned".

    But they are still lies told by satanists.

    On the pope question, speaking for myself, it has nothing to do with “going with your gut”, it’s simply following the teaching of the vast majority of the best theologians and canonists, using logic, and applying to our situation today.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #43 on: February 11, 2023, 11:33:57 AM »
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  • Context:

    Come on, people really believed that?
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: How time zones hide the Flat Earth (video)
    « Reply #44 on: February 11, 2023, 11:49:01 AM »
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  • I get it.  This question isn't unique to FE.  Traditional explanation is gravity, but I'm not really buying it.  There's certainly density.  You can see that just by letting a helium balloon go.  But what exactly causes the directionality ... it's not completely certain.  I tend to think it has to do with electric charge somehow, but I don't believe in a separate "force" called gravity.  But in both cases, you have modern science posturing as if they had certainty about it, when it's just all theory.  Gravity simply fails on the cosmological level, assuming their overall cosmology, so they had to invent dark matter to explain away the problem.…
    I don't expect a perfectly packaged prosecutorial explanation (as you said, "9/11").

    That said, if "density" was the explanation, all the noble gases would be layered, not admixed. I should have said, "Radon at my toes."