Author Topic: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth (Read 23195 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #95 on:** July 20, 2023, 07:39:53 PM »

Still waiting for an explanation for how the Alps can be seen from 700 miles away (in photos taken by someone who isn't a Flat Earther) when they should be hidden by 45 miles of curvature, or a lighthouse that's 150 feet above sea level can be seen from 250 miles away. Or how two-way laser experiments that debunk "refraction" can be explained. Or the hundreds of similar experiments. Or a response to Dr. John D's "Black Swan" video. Or why amateur balloons not equipped with GoPro lenses at 120,000 feet show no drop in the horizon line (impossible on a globe).

MiserereMei · « **Reply #96 on:** July 20, 2023, 09:05:12 PM »

Quote from: Tradman on July 20, 2023, 05:09:59 PM

The sun's behavior could be explained with Enoch's version of the 6 entries and exits in the firmament which does not depend much on the shape of the earth. Also, curvature commensurate with a 24,901 circuмference ball has never been proven or demonstrated. NASA et. al. will point to boats, cgi graphics and rockets with go pros but never deal with the measurement of the land because the land doesn't curve one mile for the first 90 miles distance, the result needed for earth to be a globe. Salt flats perfectly level for 5,000 square miles kind of put a hole in the curvature fairy tale as well.

The narrative in book of Enoch does not apply if you are at the equator. Daylight is practically the same year round. The sun"s "movement" to the left and right at sunrise, noon and sunset is minimal, and it increases gradually as you travel north or south the equator.

Tradman · « **Reply #97 on:** July 20, 2023, 09:08:18 PM »

Quote from: MiserereMei on July 20, 2023, 09:05:12 PM

The narrative in book of Enoch does not apply if you are at the equator. Daylight is practically the same year round. The sun"s "movement" to the left and right at sunrise, noon and sunset is minimal, and it increases gradually as you travel north or south the equator.

Ok, you'll need to prove the explanation in Enoch does not apply if you're at the equator. You have to fully understand what he's saying and what he proposes, in order to deny what he's saying is true.

St Giles · « **Reply #98 on:** July 21, 2023, 07:11:42 AM »

Quote from: Tradman on July 20, 2023, 07:04:03 PM

LOL. It doesn't matter what form it comes in, it has to combust to move the rocket and combustion demands lots of oxygen, not available in the upper atmosphere let alone "space".

So, what's your point? Rockets only need most of their fuel before reaching space to accelerate and overcome air resistance. Once in space, not as much fuel is needed because there is practically nothing to slow them down. When talking about rocket fuel oxygen is considered part of it, unlike in airplanes where only the non oxygen component is called fuel.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #99 on:** July 21, 2023, 07:55:52 AM »

Quote from: St Giles on July 21, 2023, 07:11:42 AM

So, what's your point? Rockets only need most of their fuel before reaching space to accelerate and overcome air resistance.

Not exactly. It's less about air resistance than in achieving "escape velocity" from the earth's "gravity" (since you believe in gravity). Interestingly, Werner von Braun felt early on that achieving escape velocity was not possible, saying something along the lines of needing a rocket the size of the Empire State Building to make it happen, explaining the paradox in the fact that the more fuel you add to the rocket (increasing it in size) the more thrust is needed to achieve escape velocity.

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