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Author Topic: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth  (Read 23237 times)

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Offline Tradman

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2023, 08:24:27 AM »
Just a question.

How do flat earthers explain Magellan, Drake and other ships that have circuмnavigated the world if it's not a globe?

I don't understand how people believe this FE stuff.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/B4gnqkq416CW/

Direct answers to your questions plus a history of the Catholic Church protecting the flat earth.  

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2023, 08:28:22 AM »
Just a question.

How do flat earthers explain Magellan, Drake and other ships that have circuмnavigated the world if it's not a globe?

I don't understand how people believe this FE stuff.

:facepalm:  I would have taking this as an honest question ... until your last sentence.  This is really one of the simplest things to address.  Whether you're on a globe or on a flat circle, in both cases you're simply going in a circle when you go around the earth.  Do you imagine the FE model is the Mercator Projection where it just suddenly stops on either side.  Perhaps if you'd educate yourself a bit first you'd be in more of a position to summarily reject "this FE stuff".


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2023, 08:30:30 AM »
Hey Yeti,

I'm not sure of the answer.  It appears that God put the lights IN the firmament and not in "outer space":

That is how the Church Fathers all read it.  There was debate about what the firmament was made of, and whether sun/moon/starts moved through the firmament (and it was some kind of plasma-like substance) or else the firmament was so solid that nothing could move in it and so the entire firmament rotated, account for the motion of the heavenly bodies.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2023, 08:36:54 AM »
I don't agree that the sun/moon remain parallel to the earth.  I believe that they follow the shape of the firmament, being in it, which is shaped like a dome.  This would explain everything about the model, why the sun moves "faster" when it's farther South and slower in the North.  If the firmament makes a single revolution around the earth in 24 hours, and the firmament is shaped like a dome, then there would be a larger circuмference to traverse in the South, thus causing it to move faster ... not unlike how they say that the earth rotates faster closer to the equator.  This would also explain how the lengths of days are roughly the same in opposite seasons, but with a more diffused and less abrupt sunrise and sunset in the south.  So, even though it's moving faster in the South, the sun is also closer to the plane of the earth, and thus would disappear more quickly due to convergence with the horizon, atmospheric occlusion, etc.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2023, 08:45:11 AM »


Great video.  If you look from 3:30 on, there's the video I had mentioned where the sun appears to be half set (half missing) and you can zoom back in on it and bring the entire sun back to you, proving that sunsets are due to perspective.  I mentioned this video to some clown here who kept arguing from the "common sense" and "your own senses" regarding sunsets.  There are also the sun "fadeout" videos, some of the best ones make by David Weiss, that show the sun disappearing and fading away while still over the horizon line.  Finally, there are videos taken in dry desert conditions showing the sun shrink very significantly as it "sets", which could not happen if it were 93 million miles away.