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Author Topic: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth  (Read 23253 times)

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Offline Yeti

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2023, 06:09:53 PM »

What propels the sun through the air on a ball earth?

Do you believe the earth is spinning or the sun revolves around the ball?  In either case, what propels it?

Is there an explanation for what makes it go in a circle rather than another direction?
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The movement of the heavenly bodies is a mystery in every system of astronomy, but since they clearly move, something is obviously moving them.

It is definitely possible for one heavenly body to orbit another. Even if you don't believe in the moon orbiting the earth, anyone with even a cheap telescope can see the moons of Jupiter orbiting that planet, so that type of motion is definitely possible. It is completely reasonable to say that the sun and moon move around the earth in the same type of movement as we see the moons of Jupiter orbiting that planet.

But there is no otherwise observable example of the type of movement that flat earthers posit is how the sun and moon move around the earth. This is another major problem with flat earth theory.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2023, 06:36:45 PM »
There's this quote from the Summa, I-Iae, Art. 1 ad 2um:

That's actually rather weak, as "round" can mean a number of things.  Better citation would be from his commentary on Aristotle.  Even then, it's not 100% clear whether he's merely explaining Aristotle or advocating his own position, something which gets a little blurry in commentaries.


Offline Matthew

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2023, 06:44:39 PM »
What propels the sun through the air in the flat earth theory? And what makes it move in a circle? If you throw a rock through the air, it doesn't move in a circle. If you trace a line on the earth over the path it would take, the line would be perfectly straight. I am not aware of any object that moves in the air over the earth's surface in such a way that, if you were to trace its path on the ground, the path would be circular. The closest thing would be a boomerang, I guess, but even those things go in somewhat of a curve but definitely not a circle.

And if there is no known case of any other object moving in such a manner, how do we know such movement is even physically possible?

God made it. We don't understand it, but we don't understand LIFE either, and many other things which scientists REFUSE to admit, or PRETEND they understand, but really don't.

All glory be to God. He created the earth and the heavens, and the powers of heaven. He made it like a clock. 

Who hast founded the earth upon its own bases: it shall not be moved for ever and ever.

[Psalms 103:5]

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2023, 08:05:29 PM »
The Book of Enoch explains that various types of angels are in charge of the sun, moon, stars, weather etc.  Especially the weather.  

Re: How Sunrise and Sunset Work on Flat Earth
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2023, 10:50:17 PM »


But there is no otherwise observable example of the type of movement that flat earthers posit is how the sun and moon move around the earth. This is another major problem with flat earth theory.


Actually there is.  It's the star trails.  They rotate above with Polaris in the center.


Observation of these star trails can only be explained on a Flat Earth.



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