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Tradman · « **Reply #35 on:** July 15, 2023, 02:07:40 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on July 15, 2023, 01:57:51 PM

That is one tricky aspect of this, that St. Thomas is merely commenting upon Aristotle. While it may be reasonably inferred that he agrees with Aristotle, it's not 100%, and typically such commentaries would be done earlier in one's career as a Philosopher/Theologian. Due to an attitude of humility, it would have been considered great hubris for someone to write his own works without first having widely read what others have to say on the matter. So you started by reading and commenting on what others had written. It may even have been considered arrogant to disagree with their conclusions at that time. If you were teaching Aristotle, it would be like explaining what Aristotle was saying rather than writing your own textbook and refuting Aristotle.

Definitely something to consider.

Jaynek · « **Reply #36 on:** July 15, 2023, 02:09:00 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on July 15, 2023, 01:57:51 PM

That is one tricky aspect of this, that St. Thomas is merely commenting upon Aristotle. While it may be reasonably inferred that he agrees with Aristotle, it's not 100%, and typically such commentaries would be done earlier in one's career as a Philosopher/Theologian.

What is ambiguous about saying that Aristotle "determines the truth about [the earth's] shape. First he proves that the earth is spherical with natural reasons taken on the part of motion; Secondly, with mathematical and astronomical reasons based on sense observations"? One does not refer to something as "the truth" if one is merely commenting on a belief that one does not share.

Cera · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2023, 04:04:48 PM »

Quote from: alaric on July 15, 2023, 05:25:28 AM

Just a question.

How do flat earthers explain Magellan, Drake and other ships that have circuмnavigated the world if it's not a globe?

I don't understand how people believe this FE stuff.

Look at the UN map (it's a FE map).

Go back and look at the video and you will see that point to which all magnets point (which is called "north") is at the center.

What we call "south" is the ice wall which circles the FE.

What we call "circuмnavigation" is actually similar to the path of the sun as seen in the video.

Finding the truth requires an open mind and the humility to deal with the fact that we've been lied to about evolution, heliocentric, Freemasonic NASA fake flight to the moon, faked Big Blue Marble art work yada yada.

Marulus Fidelis · « **Reply #38 on:** July 15, 2023, 05:03:17 PM »

Quote from: Jaynek on July 15, 2023, 02:09:00 PM

What is ambiguous about saying that Aristotle "determines the truth about [the earth's] shape. First he proves that the earth is spherical with natural reasons taken on the part of motion; Secondly, with mathematical and astronomical reasons based on sense observations"? One does not refer to something as "the truth" if one is merely commenting on a belief that one does not share.

Seems pretty unambiguous to me. Just like when the Bible says the flood gates in the firmament were opened.

Yeti · « **Reply #39 on:** July 15, 2023, 06:03:09 PM »

Quote from: Tradman on July 15, 2023, 12:39:02 PM

Please provide unmistakable proof that St. Thomas Aquinas believed earth is a globe.

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There's this quote from the Summa, I-Iae, Art. 1 ad 2um:

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For the astronomer and the physicist both may prove the same conclusion: that the earth, for instance, is round: the astronomer by means of mathematics (i.e. abstracting from matter), but the physicist by means of matter itself.

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