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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How do Flat Earth Catholics explain these devotions?
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2021, 09:37:44 PM »
Another major probem is that the jetstreams all move from West to East, in the SAME direction as the earth allegedly rotates.

"Scientists" explain this by saying it's because the winds of the jetstream are actually moving FASTER than the earth rotates.  OK, so at the equator, these West to East winds are actually moving faster than 1,000 MPH ... and the highest-ever speed recorded of a tornado is 302MPH.  So these jetstreams must actually be moving at more than 3 times the speed that a tornado rotates.

If the earth were actually rotating West to East, then the jetstreams should clearly move from East to West.

Re: How do Flat Earth Catholics explain these devotions?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2021, 09:42:59 PM »
Ah, but this is explained by the magic of "gravity".  This amazing force drags the plane and the entire atmosphere around the globe as if it were attached by an iron rod even when it's 30,000 feet up.  But, then, of course, the small flap of a butterfly's wings can allow it to move westward with no more difficulty thant it moves eastward.  If gravity were that powerful a force that it dragged things around at 1,000 MPH, then in order for this butterfly to move westward, that should prove to be more difficult than what a salmon has to do swimming upstream.  But there's no difference in exertion whether it's floating east or floating west.  In fact, it has no sense of direction based on any difference in the required exertion.  Then there are flights from North going SouthWest.  Not only does the plane have to fly south, it has to counteract this iron-grip pull of the earth toward East.  Or if a plane were to fly from the North Pole to the equator due south, at the North Pole, the earth is only rotating in at an extremely slow pace.  But then as it flew south, the speed of the movement of the surface underneath would increase, and the angular momentum of the plane and the exertion required to counteract the force would have to constantly increase.  Does a pilot have to increase the engine throttle as he moves south and the pull of gravity causes it to move eastward at an ever-faster pace?

It's utterly absurd.

Now, technically, this speaks more to a stationary earth than a flat earth per se.

Michelson-Morley and Airy's Failure also proved that the planet is not rotating but rather that the starts revolve around it.
I'm not FE or Stationary Earth, but am finding some of the arguments worth investigating.  I never gave them any credibility before, but some of it is making sense, and I'm willing to give it a fair consideration.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: How do Flat Earth Catholics explain these devotions?
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2021, 10:14:19 PM »
I'm not FE or Stationary Earth, but am finding some of the arguments worth investigating.  I never gave them any credibility before, but some of it is making sense, and I'm willing to give it a fair consideration.

That's where I started out as well.  I was initially extremely skeptical, but the more I looked at the arguments from both sides, the more convinced I became of the FE position.

Offline Matthew

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Re: How do Flat Earth Catholics explain these devotions?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2021, 07:23:10 AM »
Many of the flat-earth proponents on CI wait for a "Great Monarch", while ridiculing the insignia of a thousand years of real great Catholic Monarchs, during the Holy Roman Empire.

Why would the Lord want to hear you?

What in the heck are you blathering on about?

What do the Great Monarch, a thousand years of Catholic Monarchs, or the Holy Roman Empire, have to do with Flat Earth?

Enlighten us, because no one but you has a clue what you're talking about.

Offline Matthew

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Re: How do Flat Earth Catholics explain these devotions?
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2021, 07:28:57 AM »
Ah, but this is explained by the magic of "gravity".  This amazing force drags the plane and the entire atmosphere around the globe as if it were attached by an iron rod even when it's 30,000 feet up.  But, then, of course, the small flap of a butterfly's wings can allow it to move westward with no more difficulty than it moves eastward.  If gravity were that powerful a force that it dragged things around at 1,000 MPH, then in order for this butterfly to move westward, that should prove to be more difficult than what a salmon has to do swimming upstream.  But there's no difference in exertion whether it's floating east or floating west.  In fact, it has no sense of direction based on any difference in the required exertion.  Then there are flights from North going SouthWest.  Not only does the plane have to fly south, it has to counteract this iron-grip pull of the earth toward East.  Or if a plane were to fly from the North Pole to the equator due south, at the North Pole, the earth is only rotating in at an extremely slow pace.  But then as it flew south, the speed of the movement of the surface underneath would increase, and the angular momentum of the plane and the exertion required to counteract the force would have to constantly increase.  Does a pilot have to increase the engine throttle as he moves south and the pull of gravity causes it to move eastward at an ever-faster pace?

It's utterly absurd.

Now, technically, this speaks more to a stationary earth than a flat earth per se.

Michelson-Morley and Airy's Failure also proved that the planet is not rotating but rather that the stars revolve around it.


This is one of the things that pushed me towards Flat Earth. The whole globe earth-spinning 1000 MPH-gravity model just doesn't work in reality.

Your example of the butterfly is a slam-dunk, in my opinion. The bit about air molecules at 100 feet, 1000 feet, and 10,000 feet and 100,000 feet all being connected to the earth below as with an iron rod -- that's exactly what they teach, and it's insane in my opinion. It is heavy brainwashing (like "wear a mask to stay safe") but it has no bearing on reality, once you look into it. It has ZERO science and all religion.

Well, I don't need their religion. I have the Catholic Faith, thankyouverymuch.