No you don't.  You've already decided the earth is a globe, and there's no model that will satisfy you.  This is just a fallacious form of attack.

You falsely beg the question that the globe model hasn't been falsified (it has) and then demand a complete (accurate down-to-the-centimeter map of some kind).  There are models that have been articulated that explain many/most of the phenomena associated with the seasons, the movements of the stars and the planets.

This demand for a model is rooted in a combination of begging the question (that the globe model explains everything -- it doesn't, thus the reason for the FE movement) combined with a false dichotomy where if there isn't a complete perfect FE model (even though there isn't one for globe either), then the globe model must be true.

I want to see a computer generated video that shows me how the earth, moon, planets, and stars all work in this flat earth model. I want to see a computer generated video of how the sun sets and rises.  I want to know why if the moon and sun are created with the same material, then why does the moon go through phases of light and the sun does not.  It all just magically happens and we just have to trust that God just made it this way. If people can fake computer images of what Jupiter looks like through a telescope, then it should not be so hard to come up with a real computer model of flat earth.  Matthew gave me an overwhelming list a videos that I don't want to comb through.  I want you experts to give the video I ask for because it should be easy for you to find.  Just one video at a time so I can process it.

Maybe start with the computer generated model of how the sun and moon work together lighting up the earth and giving us different time zones.

Everything I have seen has not been very convincing.  I figured it should be easy for you to provide, yet you never do.  Instead you just say I am attacking or I have a globe biased.  Which I guess is a good way to make the conversation end, because nobody has apparently figured out how to create what I am asking for.  Maybe flat earthers need to come up with computer created videos of the specific things I am asking for.

Falsification is independent of replacement.

If something is proven false or wrong, it's wrong. Regardless of whether or not you can replace it with another model or version.

https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/falsification-is-independent-of-replacement-74347/

I want to see a computer generated video that shows me how the earth, moon, planets, and stars all work in this flat earth model. I want to see a computer generated video of how the sun sets and rises.  I want to know why if the moon and sun are created with the same material, then why does the moon go through phases of light and the sun does not.  It all just magically happens and we just have to trust that God just made it this way. If people can fake computer images of what Jupiter looks like through a telescope, then it should not be so hard to come up with a real computer model of flat earth.  Matthew gave me an overwhelming list a videos that I don't want to comb through.  I want you experts to give the video I ask for because it should be easy for you to find.  Just one video at a time so I can process it.

Maybe start with the computer generated model of how the sun and moon work together lighting up the earth and giving us different time zones.

Everything I have seen has not been very convincing.  I figured it should be easy for you to provide, yet you never do.  Instead you just say I am attacking or I have a globe biased.  Which I guess is a good way to make the conversation end, because nobody has apparently figured out how to create what I am asking for.  Maybe flat earthers need to come up with computer created videos of the specific things I am asking for.

Great post. I’ve been asking the same thing from them for months and months, I get nothing. We observe those things that you mention on a daily basis and they can be easily explained through a global Earth model, but it seems impossible with a FE model. The only way I can see how the Flat Earth theory could work is if God preformed miracles on a daily basis with the Sun, Moon, planets, and stars. He would also need to make it appear that the distances between oceans & continents and sizes of land masses could not be accurately measured or calculated. Personally I don’t believe that God would work in this fashion.

Gray said the above and the below.


  You just want a quick answer with the work.

You left out this part: “I want you experts to give the video I ask for because it should be easy for you to find.  Just one video at a time so I can process it.”

Perspective.
I've never learned or though so much about perspective, field of vision, etc. until I started studying Flat Earth.
Study it. Knowledge is always good for you, regardless of one's beliefs about the shape of the earth.

Have you never seen a video of a camera set up 1 foot off the surface, filming a man walking down a bridge (away from the camera)? I never did either, before I studied flat earth. The man's legs will start to disappear. It's crazy, but a very real optical/perspective effect. It's how the world, and our eyes, work.

One thing I learned is that some people (invariably globers) are REALLY stupid on this and many other natural world topics. For example, they think you can see forever by default, and only the "curve of the earth" prevents us seeing for thousands of miles. Seriously? But I've heard real people say this with their own mouths.

Related to this, some idiots say, "If the earth were flat, you'd be able to see Europe and the Eiffel Tower from New York Harbor. Checkmate, dude!"

Have they never studied or thought about perspective, or spent a couple hours outside in silence in their whole lives?
Public schools today, I tell ya! A total failure.

The human eye IS limited in its visual ability. It has a limited angular resolution. It can only resolve objects out so far. And, there IS an atmosphere on the earth, which attenuates objects and even the brightest of lights (such as sunlight). That would be true on a globe OR flat earth.

Of course, those in-the-know are aware that modern public schools were created to form non-thinking, hive mind, uneducated, docile, normie, blue-pilled wage slaves. In that respect, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

When I thought about how we watch a plane fly it made more sense.  If someone had never seen a plane before and they watched it until it disappeared, they'd think it was crashing into the horizon but we all know it keeps moving parallel to the earth.

This guy, p-brane, has some great (short) vids on perspective.

Perspective.
I've never learned or though so much about perspective, field of vision, etc. until I started studying Flat Earth.
Study it. Knowledge is always good for you, regardless of one's beliefs about the shape of the earth.

Have you never seen a video of a camera set up 1 foot off the surface, filming a man walking down a bridge (away from the camera)? I never did either, before I studied flat earth. The man's legs will start to disappear. It's crazy, but a very real optical/perspective effect. It's how the world, and our eyes, work.

One thing I learned is that some people (invariably globers) are REALLY stupid on this and many other natural world topics. For example, they think you can see forever by default, and only the "curve of the earth" prevents us seeing for thousands of miles. Seriously? But I've heard real people say this with their own mouths.

Related to this, some idiots say, "If the earth were flat, you'd be able to see Europe and the Eiffel Tower from New York Harbor. Checkmate, dude!"

Have they never studied or thought about perspective, or spent a couple hours outside in silence in their whole lives?
Public schools today, I tell ya! A total failure.

The human eye IS limited in its visual ability. It has a limited angular resolution. It can only resolve objects out so far. And, there IS an atmosphere on the earth, which attenuates objects and even the brightest of lights (such as sunlight). That would be true on a globe OR flat earth.

Of course, those in-the-know are aware that modern public schools were created to form non-thinking, hive mind, uneducated, docile, normie, blue-pilled wage slaves. In that respect, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

The opposite happens when you study globe earth. Study protestantism from protestant sources, and you just might become a protestant.

Perspective.
I've never learned or though so much about perspective, field of vision, etc. until I started studying Flat Earth.
Study it. Knowledge is always good for you, regardless of one's beliefs about the shape of the earth.

Have you never seen a video of a camera set up 1 foot off the surface, filming a man walking down a bridge (away from the camera)? I never did either, before I studied flat earth. The man's legs will start to disappear. It's crazy, but a very real optical/perspective effect. It's how the world, and our eyes, work.

One thing I learned is that some people (invariably globers) are REALLY stupid on this and many other natural world topics. For example, they think you can see forever by default, and only the "curve of the earth" prevents us seeing for thousands of miles. Seriously? But I've heard real people say this with their own mouths.

Related to this, some idiots say, "If the earth were flat, you'd be able to see Europe and the Eiffel Tower from New York Harbor. Checkmate, dude!"

Have they never studied or thought about perspective, or spent a couple hours outside in silence in their whole lives?
Public schools today, I tell ya! A total failure.

The human eye IS limited in its visual ability. It has a limited angular resolution. It can only resolve objects out so far. And, there IS an atmosphere on the earth, which attenuates objects and even the brightest of lights (such as sunlight). That would be true on a globe OR flat earth.

Of course, those in-the-know are aware that modern public schools were created to form non-thinking, hive mind, uneducated, docile, normie, blue-pilled wage slaves. In that respect, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Perspective is interesting.  I have read that when we look out to sea with the naked eye we can only see about 3 miles to the horizon, but as we go to higher altitudes we can see farther, but if we look at the sky we can see the moon 3000 miles (about 238000 miles away based on NASA) and the sun 3000 miles (about 91.4 million miles away based on NASA). So if we can see a light in the sky 3000 miles away, can we do the same thing from the top of a mountain with a light at some point 3000 miles away, has this been done?  Shouldn't the airplane pilots from DC be able to see the lights in San Francisco?