I got to step 3.5, considering thats as far as I could go based on contradictions and insufficiently strong evidence on both sides, but later went back to a very high level of confidence that the earth is a globe based on evidence I can see in person and reason out myself.

Evidence like 1) observing the evening sunlight shining up from below cloud level, illuminating the underside of clouds and, casting shadows of the clouds and land features upward.

2) observing the morning sunlight do the same as far as watching it transition from below to above cloud level (of which I have a video, unfortunately it is likely poor quality, but I haven't checked it yet).

3) yesterday I saw light rays or rather the shadows blocking the rays that lit up the perfectly clear sky in the evening, when the sun was BELOW the horizon. Must have been from mountains or sky scrapers.

4) I have long ago watched a thin sliver of the moon grow and shrink over a few minutes( I'm guesstimating a half hour or less)  as the shadow of the earth changed based on the changing altitude of the horizon.

5) if the sun just got farther away at night and was otherwise only a few hundred miles above the ground, it would look biggest at mid day, and tiny at morning and evening, but it always looks the same, occasionally even bigger at sunrise and set.

6) in addition to number 5, the sunlight should not appear and disappear so quickly if the sun is just moving far away over flat ground, but night and day transitions are very fast as if the sun is going to the other side of a globe.

7) I have noticed a pattern that I see most satellites in the late evening, or very early morning. Otherwise they disappear in the shadow of the earth somewhere overhead most other times of the night.

I got to step 3.5, considering thats as far as I could go based on contradictions and insufficiently strong evidence on both sides, but later went back to a very high level of confidence that the earth is a globe based on evidence I can see in person and reason out myself.

Evidence like 1) observing the evening sunlight shining up from below cloud level, illuminating the underside of clouds and, casting shadows of the clouds and land features upward.

That was a pretty bad video.

Like for instance, show me a flat earth model where the Southern Cross can be seen from South Africa, South America, and Australia at the same time? I have tried to see how it could work and have asked for a working model but that hasn't happened.

That was me from 2-7 years ago.

I stopped believing in the Moon landings as soon as I looked into it at all. Let's just say that as a Trad, I've had an open mind to "unpopular opinions" (such as Trad Catholicism itself) since I was a child.

I stopped believing in the rotating Earth when "The Princple" and "Galileo Was Wrong" movies came out several years ago. I never knew, before those movies, that scientists have tried to prove the earth moved for centuries and kept failing, and even proving the opposite without wanting to!

Right, because you say so.

Nonsense.  You set out hostile to FE and refusing to look at it with an open mind.  At least be honest with yourself.

I'd bet the moon landings happened and that the Earth is round. But what do I know? Not much on these two issues.

I do notice that Jєωs aren't at all bothered by flat earthers and moon landing hoaxers. Bart Sibrel is a Jєω who thinks the h0Ɩ0cαųst happened. It would be interesting to investigate people who believe the earth is flat and that the moon landings were fake and see how easily they are manipulated by Jєωs.

I once asked Ladislaus to refer me to an expert on the earth being flat. He mentioned some anonymous dude who claims to have a PhD. Surely there are better people than this.

You may be onto something with the laser over water videos...