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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Great channel about Flat Earth
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2024, 06:26:16 AM »
And then you claim it was "atheists" who invented FE, where it's the opposite, where atheists are the most ardently hostile to FE.  Why?  Because FE would debunk the atheistic-driven and atheistic-invented modern cosmology.  If you have the earth as flat, in a closed system, you can throw all the Big Bang randomness, and evolution, out the window, since you cannot avoid Intelligent Design with such a cosmology.  Several prominent FEs were atheists before FE and then suddenly came to believe in God after they realized the true nature of the world.  FE militates strongly against atheism.

Re: Great channel about Flat Earth
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2024, 08:00:51 AM »
Ladislaus. I'm not interested in a lengthy debate about a matter that does not pertain to Salvation. What I said about Atheists, I docuмented above - i.e. they were the ones who started the myth that medieval Christians believed in a Flat Earth, whereas medieval Christians actually knew the Earth was round and its approximate circuмference.

I'm not a science teacher and it's not in my job description to help show Flat Earthers they are wrong. But intuitively, airplanes and the fact one can travel from the Americas to Asia in two different ways already shows Flat Earth is empirically wrong. And this person explains more: "I've crushed the flat earth into smithereens more times than I can count, twice now without using any science at all, but how about one more? There are lots of commercial airline flights that prove conclusively that the earth is a sphere, and not a flat pancake. This is because the Southern Hemisphere exists. Let's take to the skies!" Saints have reported Christ or His Blessed Mother appearing with a Globe.

This is part of the issue with modern radtradism. Focus on minutiae rather than on what edifies and builds up the Faith. I don't think any trad Bishops agree with it, but I know there's some so-called society of "Flat Earth Trads". I'm a Glad Trad, and a so-called "Globe Earther" as I reject FE.



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Great channel about Flat Earth
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2024, 08:27:55 AM »
Ladislaus. I'm not interested in a lengthy debate about a matter that does not pertain to Salvation.

And yet you keep posting at length on the subject.  This is your way to deflect that fact that your first few points have been soundly refuted, just to say you're not interested in the debate (which you started here) to avoid having to rebut my points, which you can't.  Then you spam in some garbage from Non-Professor Dave that I've thoroughly debunked on other threads here.  I could counter by spamming in 50 pro-FE videos as well.

You deflect by claiming there's a focus on "minutiae" and yet you're the one here continuing to make lengthy posts on the subject.  If it matters not for salvation and we shouldn't focus on it, what's your business on this thread?  It may not matter to your salvation, but it matters to the salvation of the untold millions and billions who have lost their belief in God or Catholic faith as a result of modern science.  On top of that, truth matters.  Truth always matters.

Your first few posts betray a gross ignorance of the points and arguments made by FEs, and therefore it's clear that you have not studied the matter at depth, but are merely clinging to your previously-held Globe belief / religion / brainwashing, and apply a confirmation bias to the debate, accepting whatever claims are made in favor of Globe and rejecting those made in favor of FE without really examining the claims of both sides with an open mind.

If you don't want to engage in a debate, because it doesn't matter, according to you, then you can just leave this thread.  If you remain, you are tacitly admitting that it does matter and are exposing your statements as disingenuous (a dishonest tactic).  If you remain, then debate the points instead of just spamming in pro-Globe materials, which we could easily counter by spamming in pro-FE materials, ad infinitum.

If it doesn't matter, then why should you care in the least bit that I and others here are Flat Earthers?  You should have the attitude of, "OK.  Well, I don't agree with you, but so what?"  Mere fact that you're posting at length on this thread means that you do care and that it does matter to you ... somehow, on some level, whether you even admit it to yourself.  It's very likely due to the discomfort caused by the lifetime of psychological programming into Globe Earth.

Re: Great channel about Flat Earth
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2024, 08:31:23 AM »

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Great channel about Flat Earth
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2024, 08:38:43 AM »
But intuitively, airplanes and the fact one can travel from the Americas to Asia in two different ways already shows Flat Earth is empirically wrong.

"Intuitively"?  This statement only betrays the fact that you haven't the foggiest notion regarding the basics of the proposed FE topology, since even on the working FE model, you can easily travel between the continents in two different ways, or actually 4 if you count going over the poles (except no flights go over the South Pole, and rarely do they go over the North either, even when that would be the shortest distance).  Whether you're moving around a globe or a circle, the result in this regard would be the same.