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Offline Hewkonian

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God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
« on: July 08, 2024, 11:36:44 AM »
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    • Just remember, folks, when someone says otherwise and that the Earth is a globe, ask them if engineers take into account the curvature of the Earth when they are building miles and miles of railway track or bridges, etc. Remember, if what the "Jew science" says is true, this means that for every mile of distance, the drop due to curvature is about 8 inches per mile squared.

    The short answer is engineers don't because curvature, much like the globe Earth, is fake and gαy.

    Also, hi everyone, I am new to the forums. Have a good day!

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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #1 on: July 08, 2024, 11:39:44 AM »
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    • Not only do engineers disregard the alleged curvature, but there are dozens of NASA docuмents indicating that their conclusions are based on the assumption of a "flat, non-rotating earth".  I don't think I'd want to fly in some "spacecraft" based on some assumption that this is true.  Why?  Is that math too hard for them to work out when taking into account rotation and curvature?  In that case, I'd doubly not want to fly in some craft these mathematically-challenged individuals worked out.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #2 on: July 08, 2024, 11:52:04 AM »
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    • I remember for close to 15 years when "MuH SciEnCe" and the ball Earth were my gods. I remember how I absolutely knew nothing but talking points from NASA and nihilistic atheist skeptics online. I was empty and void on the inside, desperately wanting God not to exist, so I clung to NASA and the Bill Nyes of the world to justify and solidify my sick nihilism.

    Everything is so compartmentalized (no different than a Coca-Cola production facility), and everyone is zapped of grace from rejecting Our Lord and the Catholic faith. Denying any natural law becomes robust. Buoyancy and density sound ridiculous to your atheistic mind, while an occult hidden force, "gravity," invented by an alchemist in 1666 when a fruit of knowledge hit him on the head, is accepted without question.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #3 on: July 08, 2024, 04:40:01 PM »
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    • The curve is so slight, that it really doesn't matter compared to variations in the shape of the landscape. There are plenty of variables more significant than the supposed curve or rotation of the earth, and using earth as a reference point can be simplified by assuming it is motionless as far as the particular system allows.

    "Hewkonian" is a red flag to me, as in not someone I'd readily believe.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #4 on: July 08, 2024, 04:49:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Hewkonian on July 08, 2024, 11:52:04 AM
    I remember for close to 15 years when "MuH SciEnCe" and the ball Earth were my gods. I remember how I absolutely knew nothing but talking points from NASA and nihilistic atheist skeptics online. I was empty and void on the inside, desperately wanting God not to exist, so I clung to NASA and the Bill Nyes of the world to justify and solidify my sick nihilism.

    Everything is so compartmentalized (no different than a Coca-Cola production facility), and everyone is zapped of grace from rejecting Our Lord and the Catholic faith. Denying any natural law becomes robust. Buoyancy and density sound ridiculous to your atheistic mind, while an occult hidden force, "gravity," invented by an alchemist in 1666 when a fruit of knowledge hit him on the head, is accepted without question.

    Makes sense to me. But then I believe that the earth is flat. Though the entire system is likely a globe, with the firmament above included.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #5 on: July 08, 2024, 04:56:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on July 08, 2024, 04:40:01 PM
    The curve is so slight, that it really doesn't matter compared to variations in the shape of the landscape.

    Absolutely correct, and that's why the FEs conduct experiments mostly over water, even though there's some variation there due to water turbulence, waves, etc.  This observation militates more against globe earth than flat, since if it so happens that you cannot see something as far as you think you should, that is one possible explanation (in addition to the atmosphere).  FEs take the time to get the elevations (in relation to sea level) of their target and the elevation of the point of observation to correctly work the math.

    As I said, one might well argue that the earth is a sphere that's much larger than we've been told, but that discredits modern science almost as much as FE would.

    In any case, many of the pictures that contradict globe earth math were taken by professional photographers attempting to set long distance photography records without having a thought about the implications vis-a-vis this particular debate.

    Really the only thing that remains ... other than that the earth is in fact flat ... is the increasingly-preposterous claim of "refraction" or else positing a globe that's much larger than what we're told.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2024, 04:57:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on July 08, 2024, 04:40:01 PM
    "Hewkonian" is a red flag to me, as in not someone I'd readily believe.

    Well, to me it sounds as though he may be a Traditional Catholic, as I inferred that the name derives from Fr. Hewko ... whereas a couple of the pro-globe posters here were actually exposed as Anti-Trad trolls, though I could be wrong in terms of my inference about the derivation of the name.  There was (is?) a group called "Flat Earth Trads" who had sympathized with the Resistance.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2024, 05:54:18 PM »
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    • St. Giles,

    I hope to address your concerns with understanding and charity. Based on your writing, I believe you are a woman, so I will try my best to lead you in the right direction. I will definitely be sharing many facts that debunk the Sun-Worship model. The one I included should be enough to abandon"MuH curvature" argument. We can also discuss some studies I have conducted using high-powered zoom cameras shortly. 


    And yes, I am a strong supporter of Father Hewko.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2024, 05:54:56 PM »
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2024, 06:01:45 PM »
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    • Just saw this one a couple of days ago.  Easily repeatable and producing the same results ad infinitum.  I don't care if there's a curve, just show me where it is.  One question I have for globers is why do the Earth Curvature Calculators on-line maintain a 100% failure rate?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLakWSQA15A&pp=ygUQdGFib28gY29uc3BpcmFjeQ%3D%3D
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2024, 07:59:32 PM »
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    Offline Matthew

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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2024, 08:21:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: AlNg on July 08, 2024, 05:54:56 PM
       
    Flat Earth debunked for beginners:
    https://www.astronomy.com/astronomy-for-beginners/why-earth-is-not-flat-the-conspiracy-debunked/
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/12/07/fact-check-roundup-what-scientists-say-flat-earth-evidence/10802218002/



    You're bringing not-Professor Dave into this? He's a total clown. If you start using too many multisyllable words, especially ones he doesn't understand and/or you start carefully explaining things coherently -- his inevitable reaction will be "WORD SALAD!"

    I saw this Dave clown debate Austin Witsit (Witsit Gets It) and he was a complete tool. He constantly interrupted Austin because he had nothing. If you took a drink every time Dave used a logical fallacy, you would have died of blood alcohol poisoning 30 minutes into the debate.

    "Word salad" incidentally is a bunch of random words incoherently strung together, usually associate with schizophrenia. Like "cryptic chicken doorknob revolving discount" like a random salad of words.

    Sorry, Dave, but just because you don't follow or understand science doesn't make it word salad.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2024, 08:32:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 08, 2024, 08:21:28 PM
    You're bringing not-Professor Dave into this? He's a total clown. If you start using too many multisyllable words, especially ones he doesn't understand and/or you start carefully explaining things coherently -- his inevitable reaction will be "WORD SALAD!"

    I went through one of Not-A-Professor-But-First-Year-Grad-School-Dropout Dave's debunking sessions where he attempted to debunk what he gave as the "Top 10 FE Proofs" (some of which were strawmen).  I gave him a score of, if I recall, 2.5, where he had about 2.5 out of 10 legitimate arguments, where 3 were half points where he got it half right.  Rest were nothing but fallacies and strawmen.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2024, 08:34:31 PM »
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    • Globers throw a ton of chaff out there as distraction, but none of them have refuted the actual falsifying evidence in favor of FE, namely, that the evidence shows that things can be seen "too far" vs. the math for the purported globe.  There hasn't been a single refutation of this.  Occasionally one of them throws out the word "refraction," but even that's being seen less commonly now since it's been debunked as complete hogwash.  So their only hope is to create distractions.
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    Re: God Made the Earth as Flat as a Pancake
    « Reply #14 on: July 08, 2024, 08:38:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on July 08, 2024, 08:21:28 PM
    Sorry, Dave, but just because you don't follow or understand science doesn't make it word salad.

    There was an actual professor, Robitaille, who taught at Ohio State at one point, whom Dave attacked calling him a moron and every other name in the book ... because he didn't believe the prevailing explanation for what the sun actually is (since it was just made up in the 19th century), and he has plenty of proof for his views.  This mild-mannered professor made a video answering Dave's claims, making mincemeat out of his, exposing him as a pathetic ignoramus ... without raising his voice or using a single insult.



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    Dave:  "Pierre is just some guy on the Internet who pretends to know what he's talking about."

    Sure; also the guy who literally invented the world's first ultra high field clinical MRI system.
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