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Globe Earthers Worship 666
« on: January 19, 2018, 11:35:00 PM »
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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 08:36:48 AM »
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  • Quick Google Search reveals --

    speed of earth's orbit around the sun = 67,000 MPH
    curvature across one mile = .665 feet
    degree of earth's tilt varies between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees, currently at 23.5 degrees

    So just a bunch of bull.  Not to mention that "feet" and "miles" in the first two measurements are arbitrary units of measure and not some absolute ... when measured in kilometers, which most scientists use, it's not even close.


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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 08:37:29 AM »
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  • So now people who believe in a globe earth are Satanists.

    Could the rest of you flat earth advocates disavow this guy?  He makes you all look bad and completely discredits the cause.  For all I know, he's a paid shill to make you look bad.



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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 09:29:49 AM »
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  • He's not the only one Lad. Although his posts often seem the most "trollish", the others do a pretty good job of discrediting their cause. Anybody on here trying to legitimately look into the FE theory, will easily be turned off just by looking at any of the threads where the FE posters are challenged on their beliefs.

    Yeah, I'm trying to investigate this issue objectively and without emotion, but stuff like this really turns me off.  I can brush it aside and keep looking at the evidence, but many can't and will just dismiss it based on posts like this.  Do they even realize this?  If you want to convince other people, try not to turn them off right out of the gate and make yourselves look like a bunch of kooks.  Don't exaggerate your position, such as, from another thread, "no Catholic has ever taught globe earth" or "there's unanimous consensus among the Church Fathers" etc.

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 10:28:07 AM »
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  • Yeah, I'm trying to investigate this issue objectively and without emotion, but stuff like this really turns me off.  I can brush it aside and keep looking at the evidence, but many can't and will just dismiss it based on posts like this.  Do they even realize this?  If you want to convince other people, try not to turn them off right out of the gate and make yourselves look like a bunch of kooks.  Don't exaggerate your position, such as, from another thread, "no Catholic has ever taught globe earth" or "there's unanimous consensus among the Church Fathers" etc.
    No one said "No Catholic has ever taught globe earth".  What is being said is: "No FATHERS taught the globe earth".  Big difference.  Now, if this is an error, show what you have because any of us is subject to correction.  But if its not, it deserves not to be trifled.  Further, being there are no Fathers who teach globe earth, and the Fathers who explain Genesis and Scripture only teach flat geocentric earth, that's the definition of unanimous. 


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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 10:51:32 AM »
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  • So now people who believe in a globe earth are Satanists.

    Could the rest of you flat earth advocates disavow this guy?  He makes you all look bad and completely discredits the cause.  For all I know, he's a paid shill to make you look bad.

    I don't think that's what TiE has concluded. That the globe earth has been propagated by bad elements in the last few hundred years is what I take from that. Most people who believe in a globe earth aren't aware of the modern push for the earth being a globe. NASA, for example, does have freemasonic affiliations. We've seen photos posted on these FE threads which show this.

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 10:58:25 AM »
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  • Nope.
    Sir.  St. Augustine was a flat earther.  He is rebuking the globe here.  Its so funny to me that globers see the word globe and think it means someone is proving earth is a globe, when in fact, they are using it against the pagans. 

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 11:05:20 AM »
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  • Sir.  St. Augustine was a flat earther.  He is rebuking the globe here.  Its so funny to me that globers see the word globe and think it means someone is proving earth is a globe, when in fact, they are using it against the pagans.

    So true. The globers don't always look to see what context the term is being used in. 

    You've been studying this for a long time, happenby. You already know this stuff, and the newcomers to the debate think they have it all figured out - but they obviously do not. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 11:13:38 AM »
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  • 1 Kings (1Samuel 2: 8  Douay Rheims)
    "He raiseth up the needy from the dust, and lifteth up the poor from the dunghill: that He may sit with princes, and hold the throne of glory. For the poles of the earth are the Lord's, and upon them he hath set the world."

    The flats imagine these as brick and mortar pillars.    :pray:


    I can only think of 2 reasons why the flats are here, either they are instruments of the creation of the One World Religion or they are shills, not Catholics to cause division among True Believers.


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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 11:23:51 AM »
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  • 1 Kings (1Samuel 2: 8  Douay Rheims)
    "He raiseth up the needy from the dust, and lifteth up the poor from the dunghill: that he may sit with princes, and hold the throne of glory. For the poles of the earth are the Lord's, and upon them he hath set the world."

    The flats imagine these as brick and mortar pillars.    :pray:


    I can only think of 2 reasons why the flats are here, either they are instruments of the creation of the One World Religion or they are shills, not Catholics to cause division among True Believers.
    Now this is exactly what I'm talking about.  People refuse to study before rattling on about nothing. Scriptural translations reveal what the intent of the passage is saying because the word for "poles" is more clearly understood when compared to the intent of the writer.  We know that the word for "poles" also translates to "pillars" or to "foundations".  The fixed earth, a foundational arch-type like the Church Herself, belongs to God.  This is a passage that shows the earth doesn't move.  Take better care next time.   

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 11:37:33 AM »
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  • Nope.
    Has the revolution of the globe(or world), to which we are accustomed, departing from the rate of its primal motion, begun either to move too slowly, or to be hurried onward in headlong rotation?”


    If anything, he is making fun of the movement of earth.  But then, you guys hang stuff out for consumption without reference or context, and pretend you've proven something.  This quote does not prove your point, is somewhat unclear, actually, but if anything, proves this guy didn't buy the movement of earth.    


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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 11:50:50 AM »
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  • Globe earthers have let themselves be desensitized by 666.
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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 12:02:12 PM »
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  • Wait, no apology to reader for your inaccuracies or straw-man arguments? I should have known.

    Here is the entire part to this. Anybody can look this up. He is definitely not making fun of the MOVEMENT OF THE EARTH.
    Well, the whole quote, at last.  Definitely changes things.  It still isn't a teaching about spherical moving earth, (which would be an error on his part) but shows by comparison the various contradictory nature of pagan arguments.  Rest assured, I won't misread again, especially when provided the entire quote.  I wonder if you can say the same.  Or at least post relevant material.    

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #13 on: January 20, 2018, 12:04:10 PM »
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  • Now this is exactly what I'm talking about.  People refuse to study before rattling on about nothing. Scriptural translations reveal what the intent of the passage is saying because the word for "poles" is more clearly understood when compared to the intent of the writer.  We know that the word for "poles" also translates to "pillars" or to "foundations".  The fixed earth, a foundational arch-type like the Church Herself, belongs to God.  This is a passage that shows the earth doesn't move.  Take better care next time.  
    So you know more about translation than the scholars who translated the Douay-Rheims (with the official approval of the Church.)  How much Hebrew, Greek, and Latin do you know?

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    Re: Globe Earthers Worship 666
    « Reply #14 on: January 20, 2018, 12:07:41 PM »
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  • So you know more about translation than the scholars who translated the Douay-Rheims (with the official approval of the Church.)  How much Hebrew, Greek, and Latin do you know?
    I know enough to know that the Holy Bible Describes the earth as flat with a half dome firmament above. You can't show any evidence to prove the horizontal horizon is not horizontal.
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