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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Glass production proves Earth is flat
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2022, 09:33:48 PM »
Given how subtle the curve of a ball earth is, I think it is not a good proof one way or the other due to the difficulty of proving it. It seems that to know for sure, one would have to fly into space really far to see for them self.

I presume you believe MANY have done just that.  Surely their proof would be widely available and incontrovertible?  Where is it?

Nowhere.

"One...them...self"...what a grammatical shit-show.  Anyway, that is clearly not your strength.


Re: Glass production proves Earth is flat
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2022, 09:44:36 PM »
I see where you are getting these arguments now. I only made it through 2/3 of the video. They make most, but not all of it, sound quite convincing during the introduction. Being open minded, I thought I might have to change my belief by the end, but after the introduction it became a bunch of weak arguments or basically just opinions. Aside from the opinions, the arguments are weak because they neglect known (or at least argued truths presented by the ball earth scientists) truths about the physics involved with a globe earth and technology interacting with nature around it. A submarine does not need to pitch down for the same reason an airplane does not need to. It's because of the variable buoyancy and density of the fluid they operate in, and the fact that gravity is pulling toward a central point which is straight down at any given point. The air as a whole is moving with the ground, but variations in wind speed are possible due to variable climates caused by landscape, altitude, cloud cover, and the energy input from the sun. Things like the earth spinning at 600mph or whatever concerns one guy because he has an erroneous mental image of the physics involved. Not everyone has very good skills for imagining things, and even then, understanding is personal and subjective. The numbers that happen to have three 6's in a row are common because it is a number, relatively small, and inevitably reached when counting. It is also common in calculations involving decimals because it resembles 2/3, which is a common fraction. Any time you have 2/3 of 1 with however many zeros, you get a bunch of 6's. Then there's the guy who said he could see a mast 30 miles out or whatever from his periscope. How tall is a ship? Plenty tall. And radars are not laser beams. They are a wide angle beam for scanning a lot of sky, or they would be useless for finding stuff. Lasers are for pointing stuff out, wide angle search lights are for finding stuff. So, a radar 50ft up on a ship could scan down over the horizon a ways, and definitely quite far at high altitudes. I see it all the time, when watching severe weather on the news weather radar on TV, poor storm cell detail at long distances because the radar beam can't see down low at long distances, only what is up high, which is less defined wind and rain details. Tracking tornadoes is easy and precise until around 40-50 miles out, and I think those radars reach to 100 or maybe 150 miles.
Yeah, it can get complicated.  That's totally understandable.

I think you are correct that not everyone has good skills at imagining things.

Can you help me imagine the 66 foot drop after 10 miles of skyline in Phoenix or New York?

I can't see it.  Can you?

Maybe you could draw a picture?






Re: Glass production proves Earth is flat
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2022, 09:47:15 PM »
I presume you believe MANY have done just that.  Surely their proof would be widely available and incontrovertible?  Where is it?

Nowhere.

"One...them...self"...what a grammatical shit-show.  Anyway, that is clearly not your strength.
No need to be rude.  People need to sort through things.  That's smart.  

Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Glass production proves Earth is flat
« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2022, 10:08:33 PM »
No need to be rude.  People need to sort through things.  That's smart. 

Facts aren't rude.  Good grammar is also smart.

Re: Glass production proves Earth is flat
« Reply #89 on: June 19, 2022, 04:11:58 AM »
I presume you believe MANY have done just that.  Surely their proof would be widely available and incontrovertible?  Where is it?

Nowhere.

There is a science totally ignored by flat-earthers, and that is geodesy, Earth measurement on a large scale.

The period from Eratosthenes to Jean Picard can be called the spherical era of geodesy.

This science began with Eratosthenes (l. c. 276-195 BC), a Greek astronomer, geographer, mathematician, and poet best known for being the first to calculate the circuмference of the earth.

Jean Picard ( 1620-1682) was a French astronomer and priest born in La Flèche, where he studied at the Jesuit Collège Royal Henry-Le-Grand. He is principally notable for his accurate measure of the size of the Earth, based on a careful survey of one degree of latitude along the Paris Meridian.

As I said before, Domenico Cassini measured the Earth as egg shaped to falsify Newton's evolved bulging heliocentric Earth.