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Geocentrism & the SSPX
« on: August 01, 2022, 04:39:47 PM »
I am of the impression that as a rule geocentrism has never really been examined, much less taught as a Church doctrine in the SSPX seminary, not now or ever at least the U.S.  Presumably, the question of whether God placed the Earth (where Jesus Christ came to dwell among men some 2,000 years ago and lives in the Eucharist today) at the center of the universe was not and is not all that important.  On the other hand such things as Garabandal and Valtorta with her Poem of the Man-God have not only been studied, but actually promoted.

And now we have the SSPX leadership officially not only endorsing, but actually promoting Father Paul Robinson's book The Realist Guide to Religion and Science which among other things openly rejects geocentrism in favor of heliocentrism and which openly promotes the Big Bang.

I believe if the SSPX leadership had taken the question of geocentrism to include the question of whether the Church was right or Galileo was right a lot more seriously instead of a mostly head in the sand approach it would never have evolved to the point of openly embracing the scientific heresies encompassed in Fr. Robinson's book.

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Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2022, 05:21:10 PM »
Attached is an excerpt of a catechism class downloaded from SSPX Asia at least 10-12 years ago, not sure what year it was actually recorded. It demonstrates that the society has a real problem when it comes to 'science'.


Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 07:47:41 PM »
Attached is an excerpt of a catechism class downloaded from SSPX Asia at least 10-12 years ago, not sure what year it was actually recorded. It demonstrates that the society has a real problem when it comes to 'science'.

Thank you very much Emile for including the attachment.  The voice certainly sounds like Fr. Peter Scott, SSPX, ordained to the priesthood by Abp. Lefebvre in 1988 and former District Superior of the U.S.  He was also rector of the SSPX seminary in Australia and over the years he has been in direct charge of at least 3 different schools, one in the U.S., one in Canada and one in Africa.  Both his voice and manner of speaking are very distinctive. (For comparison you can listen to a number of videos of Fr. Scott on YouTube.)

I found it disturbing to say the least when I heard Fr. Scott speak/teach/(pontificate?) in such a matter of fact way when he states the following at:
3:29  "It's scientifically proven that the Earth goes around the sun and that's a scientific fact."
4:44  "And there's no true scientist to deny the fact [of heliocentrism]"
4:57  "But there's no true scientist to deny the Earth is in orbit around the sun." 

Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2022, 07:53:31 PM »
Thank you very much Emile for including the attachment.  The voice certainly sounds like Fr. Peter Scott, SSPX, ordained to the priesthood by Abp. Lefebvre in 1988 and former District Superior of the U.S.  He was also rector of the SSPX seminary in Australia and over the years he has been in direct charge of at least 3 different schools, one in the U.S., one in Canada and one in Africa.  Both his voice and manner of speaking are very distinctive. (For comparison you can listen to a number of videos of Fr. Scott on YouTube.)

I found it disturbing to say the least when I heard Fr. Scott speak/teach/(pontificate?) in such a matter of fact way when he states the following at:
3:29  "It's scientifically proven that the Earth goes around the sun and that's a scientific fact."
4:44  "And there's no true scientist to deny the fact [of heliocentrism]"
4:57  "But there's no true scientist to deny the Earth is in orbit around the sun."
From what I've heard, Fr. Peter Scott went to medical school to become a doctor. That would explain why he thinks like that.

Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2022, 08:38:45 PM »
Thank you very much Emile for including the attachment.  The voice certainly sounds like Fr. Peter Scott, SSPX, ordained to the priesthood by Abp. Lefebvre in 1988 and former District Superior of the U.S.  He was also rector of the SSPX seminary in Australia and over the years he has been in direct charge of at least 3 different schools, one in the U.S., one in Canada and one in Africa.  Both his voice and manner of speaking are very distinctive. (For comparison you can listen to a number of videos of Fr. Scott on YouTube.)

I found it disturbing to say the least when I heard Fr. Scott speak/teach/(pontificate?) in such a matter of fact way when he states the following at:
3:29  "It's scientifically proven that the Earth goes around the sun and that's a scientific fact."
4:44  "And there's no true scientist to deny the fact [of heliocentrism]"
4:57  "But there's no true scientist to deny the Earth is in orbit around the sun."
Here's some more of Fr. Scott.  You can see how this kind of thinking in the SSPX helped set the stage for Fr. Paul Robinson's modernist book The Realist Guide to Religion and Science.  At 10:01 Fr. Scott starts strongly deriding geocentrists.  In the process he even confuses the words rotate and revolve.  (Geocentrism, of course, holds that the Earth is motionless.  It neither rotates nor revolves.)