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Offline St Giles

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Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2022, 08:46:56 PM »
It seems to me that the SSPX likes to put faith in the knowledge of the experts in their field. This would seem wise, but with all the corruption, misinformation, and people in the wrong line of work/vocation placing too much trust in their own teachers rather than fully understanding what was taught them makes it not a wise thing to do. It seems to me that these days it is more or less necessary that the individual is a sort of expert on everything they deal with in day to day life.

Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2022, 09:08:16 PM »
I am of the impression that as a rule geocentrism has never really been examined, much less taught as a Church doctrine in the SSPX seminary, not now or ever at least the U.S.  Presumably, the question of whether God placed the Earth (where Jesus Christ came to dwell among men some 2,000 years ago and lives in the Eucharist today) at the center of the universe was not and is not all that important.  On the other hand such things as Garabandal and Valtorta with her Poem of the Man-God have not only been studied, but actually promoted.

And now we have the SSPX leadership officially not only endorsing, but actually promoting Father Paul Robinson's book The Realist Guide to Religion and Science which among other things openly rejects geocentrism in favor of heliocentrism and which openly promotes the Big Bang.

I believe if the SSPX leadership had taken the question of geocentrism to include the question of whether the Church was right or Galileo was right a lot more seriously instead of a mostly head in the sand approach it would never have evolved to the point of openly embracing the scientific heresies encompassed in Fr. Robinson's book.


As far as doing damage to the traditional remnant and Holy Mother Church, which is worse?  

An Opus Dei Marrano OR a heretical trad priest?


Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2022, 09:32:25 PM »
If people understood that the masons, witches and satanists worship the sun (and Saturn) because it represents Lucifer (with all kinds of filthy and sick symbolism) they’d reject heliocentrism for the fraud and attack on God that it is.  As it is, with most things related to the Great Conspiracy, most people are willfully or negligently uneducated.  

As it is said, you have to first recognize a problem before you can fight it.  Even most Trads don’t recognize the basic beliefs of masonry/witchcraft/paganism. 

My people have been silent, because they had no knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will reject thee…(Hosea 4:6)

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2022, 09:37:26 PM »
Here's some more of Fr. Scott.  You can see how this kind of thinking in the SSPX helped set the stage for Fr. Paul Robinson's modernist book The Realist Guide to Religion and Science.  At 10:01 Fr. Scott starts strongly deriding geocentrists.  In the process he even confuses the words rotate and revolve.  (Geocentrism, of course, holds that the Earth is motionless.  It neither rotates nor revolves.)



Sure, I understand people rejecting Flat Earth.  But geocentrism is another matter altogether, to the point that the Pope and the Holy Father considered it to be grave error and proximate to heresy to reject it.  So the derision is completely unacceptable.  He should at least maintain an attitude of respect for the learned men (including St. Robert Bellarmine) who thought otherwise.

Also unacceptable is his slavish submission to modern science, which is clearly animated by an atheistic agenda and cannot be trusted as reliable.

Re: Geocentrism & the SSPX
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2022, 09:41:50 PM »
Sure, I understand people rejecting Flat Earth.  But geocentrism is another matter altogether, to the point that the Pope and the Holy Father considered it to be grave error and proximate to heresy to reject it.  So the derision is completely unacceptable.  He should at least maintain an attitude of respect for the learned men (including St. Robert Bellarmine) who thought otherwise.

Also unacceptable is his slavish submission to modern science, which is clearly animated by an atheistic agenda and cannot be trusted as reliable.
I think he's been taken in by the "signs and wonders" of the false gospel of modern science. I just wrote some thoughts related to this in another thread:

https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/enjoy-the-possibility-of-a-eucharistic-miracle/msg838853/#msg838853