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For those interested in the great geocentric revival
« on: May 13, 2020, 12:16:50 PM »
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  • Hi lads and lasses,

    Here is the first ever serious rebuttal of heliocentrism, the lectures and book that began the return of geocentrism.

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t4xg9gh8w&view=1up&seq=7


    Scroll down very slow and each page will eventually come up, hopefully..

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    Re: For those interested in the great geocentric revival
    « Reply #1 on: May 17, 2020, 03:21:45 PM »
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  • Heliocentrism is a false concept and I am proud that the Catholic Church condemned Galileo so many years ago.  We need to spread the message of geocentrism to all catholics. God made earth the center of the universe for a reason. God put all his children on planet earth for a reason.
    Somewhere in the last century, Western man suffered a catastrophic loss of faith—in himself, in his civilization, and in the faith that gave it birth. - Pat Buchanan 2008


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    Re: For those interested in the great geocentric revival
    « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 11:34:32 AM »
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  • Heliocentrism is a false concept and I am proud that the Catholic Church condemned Galileo so many years ago.  We need to spread the message of geocentrism to all catholics. God made earth the center of the universe for a reason. God put all his children on planet earth for a reason.

    Absolutely correct Maccabeansoft. Unfortunately the Galilean heresy has dominated Catholic thought since 1820 at least. Open your mouth on any other Catholic forum except CIF and you will be barred.

    I hear there is another book on the subject due out in the future that should stir things up.
    Meanwhile be careful with language. 'Planet Earth' is the heresy. Never address the Earth as planet Earth, just give it the name God gave it, Earth.

    By the way here is another interesting website. Go down the left and click on FULL VIEW. Just give it time to download
    https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/100761683

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    Re: For those interested in the great geocentric revival
    « Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 01:53:00 PM »
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  • Meanwhile be careful with language. 'Planet Earth' is the heresy. Never address the Earth as planet Earth, just give it the name God gave it, Earth.


    Right, but why? The reason is to well known to cassini, he won't even mention it.

    Because greek πλανήτης planētēs means 'wandering' [star/celestial body], while the Earth does not move.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: For those interested in the great geocentric revival
    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2020, 05:30:14 AM »
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  • Correct Struthio.

    True, if Scripture is found in error, God could not be its author. Keep in mind also that nowadays the Earth is referred to as ‘this planet.’ As regards the real planets, well prior to their identification as planets they were known as ‘wandering stars.’ In heliocentric terms, the Earth would also be a ‘wandering star,’ as the Pythagoreans said, yet nowhere in the Scriptures do we find any hint of the Earth as anything other than ‘Earth’ fixed in the centre of the cosmos. In the Epistle of St Jude the Apostle, brother of St James, he warns against false teachers and heretics who will ‘deride what they do not know.’
     
    ‘These men …wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom the storm of darkness is reserved for ever.’  (St Jude, 1:13)


    ‘But these men blaspheme whatever things they know not: and what things so ever they naturally know, like dumb beasts, in these they are corrupted. Woe unto them, for they have gone in the way of Cain: Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own confusion; wandering stars, to whom the storm of darkness is reserved for ever.’ (Jude: 10-14).’

    Brother Lee puts the above like this. ‘It seems that some Christians are stars, that they are shining, but their shining is a deception. They are stars, but they are not the steadfast stars. If you follow them, you will be misled; eventually you will not know where to go. They themselves are wandering: they have no ground, they have no standing, and they have no certain way to go on with the Lord. Today they say this, and tomorrow they will say that; they are wandering. Be careful! You can never find Jesus by following a wandering star.’ At La Salette in 1846, 11 years after the U-turn, Our Lady is reputed to have said:      

    ‘The leaders, the guides of the people of God have neglected prayer and penance, and the demon has obscured their intelligence; they have become these wandering stars that the old devil will drag along with his tail to make them perish.’



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    Re: For those interested in the great geocentric revival
    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2020, 05:38:33 AM »
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  • Cardinal Bellarmine’s ‘Ladder of Assent.’ 

    Step 6. The order and harmony of the stars mirror the hierarchy of heaven.

    What is utterly wonderful in the stars is how, even though they move with extreme speed and never stop from their rapid course, some moving in slower and others in faster orbits, still they always keep their measure and proportion with the others so that they give rise to a sweet and melodious harmony. God speaks of this harmony in the Book of Job (Job 38:37) when He says, “Who can declare the order of the heavens, or who can put the harmony of the heavens to sleep?” This is not the harmony of voices and sounds that our bodily ears hear but the harmony of the proportions in the stars’ movements that the ear of the heart recognises. For the stars of the firmament all race together through the whole circle of the sky at the same speed during twenty-four hours, for those stars which are called planets or wandering stars are hurled with differing movements, some faster, some slower, so that the stars of the firmament seem to represent the bass notes (to use the common expression) and the planets play a sort of eternal and sweet counterpoint. But the stars are above us and that harmony is hearable only to those who live in heaven and grasp the order of their movement. Since the stars keep their proper distances and never tire in turning in their orbit, they seem to behave like a joyous chorus of noble virgins who are ever dancing skilfully through the sky….’


     

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