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Flat-Earthism goes public.
« on: January 12, 2018, 07:34:20 AM »
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  • Flat Earth activists will be pleased to know that in Thursday;'s edition of THE IRISH DAILY MAIL there was a two page article by John Naish entitled:

    Freddie Flintoff is the
    latest in a long line of
    celebrities to endorse
    the theory. But why
    do they believe the
    EARTH IS FLAT?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5184965/Freddie-Flintoff-believes-world-FLAT.html

    Two pages of reasons are written up in the paper with two headlines:
    'I drive all over America- and its flat to me.' [Not even when he drives up a hill?]
    'We don't fall for the nonsense of astronauts.'

    Anyway, I thought you flat earthers would love this. It seems Flat-earth is catching on. I haven't read it all yet but I would be surprised if the conclusion they come to is that God had something to do with their flat earth.

    So go on lads, enjoy.

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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #1 on: January 12, 2018, 11:32:40 AM »
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  • hey, this map in the article actually shows Jerusalem closer to the center.


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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #2 on: January 12, 2018, 04:54:38 PM »
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  • Flat Earth activists will be pleased to know that in Thursday;'s edition of THE IRISH DAILY MAIL there was a two page article by John Naish entitled:

    Freddie Flintoff is the
    latest in a long line of
    celebrities to endorse
    the theory. But why
    do they believe the
    EARTH IS FLAT?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5184965/Freddie-Flintoff-believes-world-FLAT.html

    Two pages of reasons are written up in the paper with two headlines:
    'I drive all over America- and its flat to me.' [Not even when he drives up a hill?]
    'We don't fall for the nonsense of astronauts.'

    Anyway, I thought you flat earthers would love this. It seems Flat-earth is catching on. I haven't read it all yet but I would be surprised if the conclusion they come to is that God had something to do with their flat earth.

    So go on lads, enjoy.
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    When it comes to picking up a trending topic you can hardly beat the Daily Mail, a journal of unquestioned sagacity!
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    One of Hampden’s supporters, Lady Elizabeth Anne Blount, a devout Christian and vegetarian, established the Universal Zetetic Society to prove his point.

    The word Zetetic means ‘inquiring’, though the society’s limited horizons [pun!] were betrayed by the title of its journal: The Earth Not A Globe Review. However, it attracted as members an archbishop, a major-general, various aristocrats and literary names of the day.

    The organisation limped into the 20th century, becoming the International Flat Earth Society in 1956. Its organiser, Samuel Shenton, of Dover, was a tireless campaigner and speaker on the subject of a flat Earth, dismissing the first satellite images to show Earth as a sphere in 1960 by claiming: ‘It’s easy to see how a photograph like that could fool the untrained eye.’ [could be a flat-earther on CI!]

    After Shenton died in 1971, the Society’s membership records passed to a Charles Johnson in California, who declared himself ‘president of the International Flat Earth Research Society of America and Covenant People’s Church’.

    ‘If Earth were a ball spinning in space, there would be no up or down,’ [Where's happenby when you need her?] he told Newsweek magazine in 1984. Instead, he maintained that the world was a flat disc floating on primordial waters.

    He claimed his group had 3,500 members. But when Johnson died in 2001, it seemed the movement would die with him. After all, even the Vatican had admitted the Inquisition (the Catholic Church’s institution established to combat heresy) had been wrong in 1633 to force Renaissance scientist Galileo Galilei to renounce his theory — under threat of torture — that the Earth does not move around the Sun, although not until 1992.

    Then, along came the internet — and now the worldwide web has become a Flat-Earth forum for cranks around the globe (if you will excuse the rotundist terminology).


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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #3 on: January 12, 2018, 04:59:51 PM »
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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 05:20:12 PM »
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  • The Ancient Greeks first discovered the world was round in at least 200BC, if not 300 years earlier
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    As so often is the case with the Daily Mail, what you see in the picture pictured is not obviously supported by the caption captioned!
    Here, for example, is a disk depicting what was thought to be the "known world" around 200 BC, with the Mediterranean Sea (literally the sea of middle earth) in the very center. 
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    However, while this may have been in the back of the minds of the uneducated, those who had bothered to investigate the evidence had long seen it all pointing to a much larger spherical earth with oceans beyond the horizon of unknown dimension.
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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 09:54:35 PM »
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  • Flat Earth activists will be pleased to know that in Thursday;'s edition of THE IRISH DAILY MAIL there was a two page article by John Naish entitled:

    Freddie Flintoff is the
    latest in a long line of
    celebrities to endorse
    the theory. But why
    do they believe the
    EARTH IS FLAT?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5184965/Freddie-Flintoff-believes-world-FLAT.html

    Two pages of reasons are written up in the paper with two headlines:
    'I drive all over America- and its flat to me.' [Not even when he drives up a hill?]
    'We don't fall for the nonsense of astronauts.'

    Anyway, I thought you flat earthers would love this. It seems Flat-earth is catching on. I haven't read it all yet but I would be surprised if the conclusion they come to is that God had something to do with their flat earth.

    So go on lads, enjoy.
    Thomas Dolby and The Muppets are too!   :jester:

    "Even a man who is pure in heart and says his prayers by night
    may become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright."

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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 11:25:06 PM »
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    Flat-earthism is sillier than the Muppets. You really shouldn't drag them down by association.
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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 11:26:24 PM »
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  • hey, this map in the article actually shows Jerusalem closer to the center.
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    What it shows is the Mediterranean Sea at the center, whence its name.
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    And in the center of the Sea is Sicily ---------- Sicilians would like that -- they think the world revolves around them.
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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 07:05:26 AM »
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  • FOR MY FLAT-EARTH FRIENDS, A HISTORY OF FLAT-EARTHISM

    Just read the long article on flat-earthism and flat earthers. A test done in 1838 by biblical creationists with surveyers rods six miles apart produced a straight line. No curve was found so they 'proved' their flat earth. This 'proof' attracted a small army of flat earthers in 1870 offering £500 if one could show proof that the earth is not flat. Alfred Russel Wallace said that was because of 'atmostpheric refraction,' the bending of light through the air as happens with starlight. Allowing for this Wallace, a famous scientist, found that bend and claimed the money.
    Anyway it ended up in court, and the money had to be given back because the bet was 'invalid.' Both sides thereafter claimed victory.

    In 1956 the International Flat Earth Society was formed. They dismissed the 1960 photos of curved earth from space saying they were frauds. In 1984  newsweek said there were 3,500 members of International flat earth research society of America and Covenant People's Church. When Johnson its leader died in 2001 it seemed the movement would die with him because the Vatican had admitted in 1992 that Galileo was right all along.

    Along came the internet. In 2004 the Flat earth Society was resurrected as a forum. it was relaunched in 2009, its first new member the singer Tom Dolby who released an album called THE FLAT EARTH. The movement split into the Flat Earth Society (140,000 members) and the Biblical Flat-Earth Society (161,000 members).

    With Donal trump exposing so much 'fake news' geocentrism has been given a great boost. Last year 52% in a poll said the moon landing was faked. They are now saying another scam called 'climate change' has been added to the fake news.

    Finally a 61 year-old Mike Huhges is making a home-made missial to prove we live on a flat earth. Similar plans are being made by a  Darrel Fox in Portland but cannot rauise the money.

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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 10:25:41 PM »
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  • "Have a look at the Flat Earth Society's online membership list.

    I didn't want to mention anything ahead of time in case he wasn't on board with the whole thing, but I had a quick chat with him in email and he's ok with being listed, so here goes:  Yes, 00001 is the Thomas Dolby -- 80's synthesizer legend best known for the pop hit, "She Blinded Me With Science."  But he's had many other albums as well and also started a company called Headspace which designed, among other things, some synthesizer technology which may very well be floating around in your mobile phone if it's a Nokia.  And if my brief conversation in email is any indication, he's an all-around nice guy to boot.

    But I digress.

    By now, you're probably wondering why I offered Thomas Dolby FotFE status and why he's sitting at 00001 on the membership list.  I'm sure he didn't plan it this way, but Thomas Dolby is responsible for the Society's existence now.  In 1984, he released an album called "The Flat Earth" which contained a song of the same name.  This album wasn't as big a hit in the US as his previous one and the first time I actually listened to it was during university in the late 90's after I'd found a copy on vinyl at a used record store and figured, "hey, I liked that big song of his.. so why not?".  At that time, I had some vague idea that there was (or had been) something called the Flat Earth Society but I didn't really know anything about it.  But I loved the album (particularly the title track) and listened to it often.. and it got me thinking.  

    I started doing research and learning more about the Society and Flat Earth theory and gradually I came around to the Society's way of thinking.  In 2001, I was saddened to learn that Charles K. Johnson, then president, had passed away and the Society had essentially died with him.  I decided then that I would resurrect the Society.  And here we are today.  I still regret that I never contacted Charles when he was alive, but the new Society is my tribute to him and all of the other Flat Earther leaders who came before him.  And, strange as it may sound, it wouldn't have happened without Thomas Dolby."

    https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33875.0
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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 01:30:59 AM »
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  • Flat earth society are frauds..controlled opposition. 


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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 04:28:50 AM »
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  • FOR MY FLAT-EARTH FRIENDS, A HISTORY OF FLAT-EARTHISM

    Just read the long article on flat-earthism and flat earthers. A test done in 1838 by biblical creationists with surveyers rods six miles apart produced a straight line. No curve was found so they 'proved' their flat earth. This 'proof' attracted a small army of flat earthers in 1870 offering £500 if one could show proof that the earth is not flat. Alfred Russel Wallace said that was because of 'atmostpheric refraction,' the bending of light through the air as happens with starlight. Allowing for this Wallace, a famous scientist, found that bend and claimed the money.
    Anyway it ended up in court, and the money had to be given back because the bet was 'invalid.' Both sides thereafter claimed victory.

    In 1956 the International Flat Earth Society was formed. They dismissed the 1960 photos of curved earth from space saying they were frauds. In 1984  newsweek said there were 3,500 members of International flat earth research society of America and Covenant People's Church. When Johnson its leader died in 2001 it seemed the movement would die with him because the Vatican had admitted in 1992 that Galileo was right all along.

    Along came the internet. In 2004 the Flat earth Society was resurrected as a forum. it was relaunched in 2009, its first new member the singer Tom Dolby who released an album called THE FLAT EARTH. The movement split into the Flat Earth Society (140,000 members) and the Biblical Flat-Earth Society (161,000 members).

    With Donal trump exposing so much 'fake news' geocentrism has been given a great boost. Last year 52% in a poll said the moon landing was faked. They are now saying another scam called 'climate change' has been added to the fake news.

    Finally a 61 year-old Mike Huhges is making a home-made missial to prove we live on a flat earth. Similar plans are being made by a  Darrel Fox in Portland but cannot rauise the money.


    There is confusion here. The international flat earth research society is different from the flat earth society. The latter Masonic. The former was resurrected by Eric Dubay called IFERS with his forum of that name. The Masonic one always existed, though it might have had a lull.

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    « Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 12:19:13 PM »
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  • I didn’t know flat earth society was Masonic but that would explain why the information there is so shallow and empty of substance. 

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    « Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 12:45:12 PM »
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  • I didn’t know flat earth society was Masonic but that would explain why the information there is so shallow and empty of substance.
    Ten years ago when I discovered flat earth, I wound up on the doorstep of the Flat Earth Society.  Admins encouraged me to buy a book, "Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea" by Christine Garwood.  What a waste of money.  I wound up burning it in my fireplace one cold year.  Even back then I saw instantly that she was a host of contradictions and utterly devoid of Faith. She mocked the greats like Parallax and then dedicated her book to him.  That was the first time I realized it was going to be a long hard road ahead.  Since somebody is spearheading the opposition so fiercely, one does have to wonder if they are not Masons and/or Jews.  

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    Re: Flat-Earthism goes public.
    « Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 02:04:16 PM »
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  • There is confusion here. 

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    You can say THAT again.
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