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Offline Neil Obstat

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Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2018, 12:49:07 PM »
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  • Threads on this forum prove globers impugn sacrilege, blasphemy and heresy on flat earthers so this is a bald face lie.
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    Wrong, as usual. You might be okay in supporting +W but regarding pretty much everything else you're flat wrong.
    Provide proof that any globe earther has accused flat-earthers of heresy for their flat-earthdom syndrome.
    It's not a heresy, it's just a clinical malfunction of the mind, a syndrome in other words.
    Flat-earthers wouldn't make it through the first course in Logic because they show they can't think straight.
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 06:40:44 PM »
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  • https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/catholic-flat-earthism-probably-blasphemous-or-worse/

    Neil, you are proven a liar again because not only did globe posters at least tacitly agree that flat earth is blasphemy or worse (heresy) you were one of them as seen in the line above.  Naturally, that makes anyone who agrees contrarians to the Fathers of the Church and suspect of heresy themselves.  

      


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #17 on: September 22, 2018, 01:37:37 PM »
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    +Williamson won't mind getting support of flat-earthdom syndromers but he certainly wouldn't want to be associated with flat earthism.
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    Flat-earthdom syndromers defame traditional Catholics when they claim to be Catholic. Simple. End of story.
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    The sphericity of the earth is demonstrable by every means imaginable, so claiming the Church teaches otherwise is stupid. 
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #18 on: September 22, 2018, 02:01:36 PM »
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  • The sphericity of the earth is demonstrable by every means imaginable, so claiming the Church teaches otherwise is stupid.

    Please show exactly where the Church teaches that the earth is a sphere. Please be specific.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 02:13:32 PM »
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    Interestingly, globe earthers don't impugn heresy upon flat-earthdom syndromers, just that they're pathetic.

    You are not being honest. You have said in the past that I am possibly in heresy because I don't accept your views on the shape of the earth. You've said it to me more than once. And there have been sedevacantists who have in the past said this also.

    How can one debate with people who are not honest? But of course you do not allow FE to be debated here.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #20 on: September 22, 2018, 02:52:14 PM »
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  • You are not being honest. You have said in the past that I am possibly in heresy because I don't accept your views on the shape of the earth. You've said it to me more than once. And there have been sedevacantists who have in the past said this also.

    How can one debate with people who are not honest? But of course you do not allow FE to be debated here.
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    My views are irrelevant. Go outside this evening and see the sun set due west. 
    The truth is right there before your eyes but you have to look.
    If you keep staring at your computer screen or the pages of books you won't know what the real world has to show you.
    The truth is knowable by the things God made.
    The truth is right there for all to see, but you have to look. 
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #21 on: September 22, 2018, 03:40:59 PM »
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  • The sphericity of the earth is demonstrable by every means imaginable, so claiming the Church teaches otherwise is stupid.

    You need to show where, exactly, the Church teaches that the earth is a sphere.

    I have never seen such a teaching. So, for you to infer that it is a teaching is dishonest. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #22 on: September 22, 2018, 03:48:06 PM »
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    You need to show where, exactly, the Church teaches that the earth is a sphere.

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    Do I "need to show" where the Church teaches the sky is blue, water is wet or fire is hot?
    Do you believe the sky is blue? Where does the Church teach that?
    Do you believe water is wet?
    Or fire is hot?
    If the Church doesn't teach it, then why would you believe it?
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    You might be okay in supporting +W but regarding the shape of the earth, you're flat wrong.
    Flat-earthdomism is not a heresy, it's just a clinical malfunction of the mind, a syndrome in other words. 
    Flat-earthdomism is a manifest failure of the mind to think logically.
    Flat-earthers would NOT make it through the first course in Logic because they show they can't think straight. 
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #23 on: September 22, 2018, 04:00:53 PM »
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    Do I "need to show" where the Church teaches the sky is blue, water is wet or fire is hot?
    Do you believe the sky is blue? Where does the Church teach that?
    Do you believe water is wet?
    Or fire is hot?
    If the Church doesn't teach it, then why would you believe it?
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    You might be okay in supporting +W but regarding the shape of the earth, you're flat wrong.
    Flat-earthdomism is not a heresy, it's just a clinical malfunction of the mind, a syndrome in other words.
    Flat-earthdomism is a manifest failure of the mind to think logically.
    Flat-earthers would NOT make it through the first course in Logic because they show they can't think straight.

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    "If the Church does not teach it, then why would you believe it?"

    The Church does not teach that the earth is a sphere. So why would you believe it, Neil?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #24 on: September 22, 2018, 09:38:22 PM »
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  • Quote:

    "If the Church does not teach it, then why would you believe it?"

    The Church does not teach that the earth is a sphere. So why would you believe it, Neil?
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    Are you having comprehension problems again?
    The Church doesn't teach fire is hot.
    The Church doesn't teach water is wet.
    The Church doesn't teach the sky is blue.
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    Is this too complicated for you?
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    Flat-earthers show they can't make the first step in logical thinking. Not the first step.
    Which is why +W wouldn't want to be associated with flat-earthdomism.
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #25 on: September 22, 2018, 09:45:33 PM »
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    The Catholic Church has never demanded of Catholics that we deny the evidence of our senses in regards to material reality.
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    The Church is not about believers not having to think, believing everything they're told without material evidence, in regards to material reality.

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    Let me guess: It was far too much trouble for you to go see the direction of the setting sun today.
    Just like it's far too much trouble for you to get a glass of water and a bottle cap to see if you can make it stay in the middle.
    Material reality is simply too much for flat-earthers to deal with. 
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #26 on: September 23, 2018, 09:22:38 AM »
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    The Catholic Church has never demanded of Catholics that we deny the evidence of our senses in regards to material reality.

    And yet you deny Scripture and some of the Fathers, in favor of what you've been told is the shape of the earth. And your experiments only conform to what you've been told by modern pagan science.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #27 on: September 23, 2018, 06:44:11 PM »
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  • And yet you deny Scripture and some of the Fathers, in favor of what you've been told is the shape of the earth. And your experiments only conform to what you've been told by modern pagan science.
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    You're jumping topic again. I said "in regards to material reality." Do you know what that is?
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    Where did I deny Scripture? Or are you referring to your own personal interpretation of Scripture, which is condemned by the way.
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    They are not "my experiments." Experiments belong to anyone who chooses to perform them, which YOU DON'T.
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    +W is quite wise to keep clear of flat-earthers, they're only bad news for any honest discussion. Romans 1 curse! 

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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #28 on: September 23, 2018, 07:04:34 PM »
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    no one cares anymore.
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    This thread has been moved now, where it will never be read.
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    This thread has received over 900 more views since your prediction that it will "never be read."
    Do you make a career of being wrong about everything, or just things in regards to your flat-earthdom syndrome?
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    I took the liberty of correcting some of your mistakes below. You can thank me later.
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    Claiming that it is ONLY ad hominem attacks you are getting is only digging your dishonest hole even more. Re-read my posts, and learn to pay attention.


    There are two types of person who would interpret things the way you say [according to flat-earthomism]

    1. A mentally retarded person.

    2. Someone who has a bad will.

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    You're making progress. Flat-earthdom syndrome could be either of the two. Congratulations!
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    So which is it? Cos the facts show clearly that there is no attempt to claim Bishop Williamson. Your whole argument skirts around the truth of the flat earth issue.  Because you presume [can prove, and have proved] the flat earth is stupid.

    So just come out and admit that you are acting wickedly, or inform us of which type of mental retardation you have: autism, dyslexia, down-sydrome, etc. If this is the case, I will have the greatest mercy and pity on you, but a web forum is no place for you.
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    The facts show clearly there is an obvious attempt to pretend that Bishop Williamson agrees with your idiocy, which amounts to defamation and he could sue you for that, but he won't. He's a nice guy.
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    Flat-earthers: autism, dyslexia, down syndrome, flat-earthdom syndrome, take your pick, maybe all of the above! Perhaps more!!
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    Re: Flat Earth Trads supporting B. Williamson
    « Reply #29 on: September 23, 2018, 07:11:59 PM »
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    Hundreds of pages of evidence are at the ready to substantiate everything I wrote in the previous post. Don't tempt me. 
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