Author Topic: Flat earth sunrise and sunset. (Read 3766 times)

Matto · « **on:** December 24, 2016, 10:53:23 AM »

Quote from: mw2016

Since my own discovery of the flat earth, I am coming to the conclusion that the ones actually lacking in intelligence are the ball-earthers, and the truly smart ones are the flat earthers BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE IT.

I have thought about this issue a lot and the idea of a flat earth seems absurd to me because as far as I can understand it, it seems impossible to reconcile with what I observe. The main point that makes it seem impossible to me is the movement of the sun and sunrise and sunset. I cannot see how that is reconcilable with a flat earth. I just cannot understand it and I have tried. This thread is for one part of the flat earth theory, discussion on how the movement of the sun and sunrise and sunset works in a flat earth model.

On the heliocentric round earth model it makes sense, on the geocentric round earth model it makes sense, but on the flat earth model it does not make sense to me.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #1 on:** December 24, 2016, 11:14:57 AM »

Matto · « **Reply #2 on:** December 24, 2016, 11:24:53 AM »

Yes I have seen a similar graphic before. I think it is absurd and does not work. Just to point out one problem with that graphic, if that were true then when the sun was at sunrise or sunset it wouldn't look like the sun was going down or up as it does, it would look like the sun is going sideways because of the curvature of the flat earth and the curve of the sun's movement. Also if the sun never really went down below the earth you would be able to see it always because there is nothing blocking the rays of the sun. If there is nothing between the sun and us, as on the flat earth model, then the rays should always reach us.
Maybe I am mistaken but I cannot get it to work in my mind.

mw2016 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 24, 2016, 11:25:50 AM »

The sun and moon travel in a circuit (a circular path) over the flat plane of the earth.

The phenomenon of "rising" and "setting" are due to the law of perspective from your point of view as you view the sun as it approaches you from the east, passes overhead, then moves away from you toward the west.

p-brane explains and illustrates it well, go to the 10:30 mark:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/GDaiw-G1VGE[/youtube]

mw2016 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 24, 2016, 11:31:31 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Yes I have seen a similar graphic before. I think it is absurd and does not work. Just to point out one problem with that graphic, if that were true then when the sun was at sunrise or sunset it wouldn't look like the sun was going down or up as it does, it would look like the sun is going sideways because of the curvature of the flat earth and the curve of the sun's movement. Also if the sun never really went down below the earth you would be able to see it always because there is nothing blocking the rays of the sun. If there is nothing between the sun and us, as on the flat earth model, then the rays should always reach us.
Maybe I am mistaken but I cannot get it to work in my mind.

That graphic is an overhead, bird's eye view. Perhaps you need an edge-on side view graphic, more like this.

The sun's rays are very limited. The sun casts a limited circle of light, it is NOT infinite, nor constant. Einstein was wrong. That is why you have half the earth covered in light where the sun is passing over, while the other half is enclosed in darkness where the sun is not. The earth is incredibly more vast than you can imagine. The distances seen even from a high altitude balloon only cover about 500-700 miles at most. Think about that: the USA landmass alone is nearly THREE THOUSAND miles across.