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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Flat Earth refuted.
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2024, 10:27:11 PM »
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  • You forgot your bibliography: Ladislaus' opinions.

    I do think it reasonable to consider the sun and moon potentially interfering with the pendulum experiment. I imagine a properly insulated room could remove electromagnetic interference, but not gravitational interference.

    Yes, I have not had time to dig into sources, but it's much more difficult to prove a negative.  Let me just say that at no time in my research of Coriolis have I come across any experiment which has directly detected said "force" or "effect".  Nor can I easily find a study that affirms my statement, since nearly all sources assume the validity of Coriolis.  I infer this from the absence of any information about such a direct detection or measurement of Coriolis.  It's always a hypothesis that's then inferred as being "proven" by the movement of hurricanes.  If you come across anything, let me know, but I have not seen it.  Just because you see some phenomenon, like the rotation of hurricanes, that happens to fit with some hypothesis, that's no proof of cause, since there could be other possible causes.  As I mentioned, we know that hurricanes are related to warming waters.  If the jet streams move from West to East in both North and South, but in the North the warming waters are moving from South to North, but in the South are moving from North to South, then you have a North + East vector in the North, and a South + East vector in the South.  I can't prove this, obviously, but it's one hypothesis that could account for the difference in rotation.


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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #16 on: May 21, 2024, 12:25:27 AM »
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  • 90% of Ladislaus' post (above) is COMMON SENSE. It's not opinion, it doesn't need references, because it's stating facts that you can observe for yourself, think about with your own brain, apply common sense, etc.

    ... that is, at least for those who can still think for themselves, and escape the powerful brainwashing they have received.

    Oh, let me guess -- you don't believe they could brainwash you for some reason? Either because you're so smart/special, or because they have no such power to brainwash?

    NO, and NO.

    They most certainly can brainwash us, they have it down to a science by now. As for you not being special or "above" brainwashing, that isn't intended as an insult to you; I was brainwashed to believe in the globe as well. As I've said many times recently, every "Flat earther" or "flerf" (derogatory term) was ONCE A BELIEVER IN THE GLOBE, JUST AS YOU.

    Those who accept that the earth is not a globe come from *all* walks of life. And there are plenty of hi-IQ individuals as well among them -- including many whose IQ is higher than yours. Just remember that.
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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #17 on: May 21, 2024, 01:29:47 PM »
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  • Just out of curiosity, in that cosmology, what's outside of that globe?  Above it, beneath it, or to the side of it?
    Scripture says that the earth is God's footstool.

     
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    Thus saith the Lord: Heaven is my throne, and the earth my footstool: what is this house that you will build to me? and what is this place of my rest?
     [Isaias (Isaiah) 66:1]
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    Heaven is my throne, and the earth my footstool. What house will you build me? saith the Lord; or what is the place of my resting?
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    Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool: nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great king:
     [Matthew 5:35]

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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #18 on: May 21, 2024, 01:42:13 PM »
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  • Ezekiel 1
    22 And over the heads of the living creatures was the likeness of the firmament, as the appearance of crystal terrible to behold, and stretched out over their heads above.  23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other, every one with two wings covered his body, and the other was covered in like manner.  24 And I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of many waters, as it were the voice of the most high God: when they walked, it was like the voice of a multitude, like the noise of an army, and when they stood, their wings were let down.  25 For when a voice came from above the firmament, that was over their heads, they stood, and let down their wings.

     26 And above the firmament that was over their heads, was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of the sapphire stone, and upon the likeness of the throne, was a likeness as of the appearance of a man above upon it.  27 And I saw as it were the resemblance of amber as the appearance of fire within it round about: from his loins and upward, and from his loins downward, I saw as it were the resemblance of fire shining round about.  28 As the appearance of the rainbow when it is in a cloud on a rainy day: this was the appearance of the brightness round about.

    Ezekiel 2
     1 This was the vision of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And I saw, and I fell upon my face, and I heard the voice of one that spoke. And he said to me: Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak to thee.  2 And the spirit entered into me after that he spoke to me, and he set me upon my feet: and I heard him speaking to me,  3 And saying: Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious people, that hath revolted from me, they, and their fathers, have transgressed my covenant even unto this day.  4 And they to whom I send thee are children of a hard face, and of an obstinate heart: and thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord God:  5 If so be they at least will hear, and if so be they will forbear, for they are a provoking house: and they shall know that there hath been a prophet in the midst of them.
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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #19 on: May 21, 2024, 11:38:20 PM »
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  •  And there are plenty of hi-IQ individuals as well among them -- including many whose IQ is higher than yours. Just remember that.
    Can you give an example of that?


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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #20 on: May 22, 2024, 12:53:39 AM »
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  • Can you give an example of that?

    This guy.

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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #21 on: May 22, 2024, 07:32:51 AM »
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  • This guy.

    I'd also add Dr. John D, who has a Ph.D. in spectrometry ... who has conducted meticulous scientific experiments and has concluded from them that the earth is flat, and JTolen, who used to work for NASA building satellites, who's taken all the infrared photographs and put them together in photogrammetry software that clearly showed the surface to be flat.  There have been former F-16 pilots and many other pilots, US submarine operators, and all manner of professionals with high IQ in their respective fields.  There was one guy whose job it was in the armed forces to calculate the trajectories of projectiles who has calculated that the earth is flat.

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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #22 on: May 22, 2024, 08:47:11 AM »
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  • I'd also add Dr. John D, who has a Ph.D. in spectrometry ... who has conducted meticulous scientific experiments and has concluded from them that the earth is flat, and JTolen, who used to work for NASA building satellites, who's taken all the infrared photographs and put them together in photogrammetry software that clearly showed the surface to be flat.  There have been former F-16 pilots and many other pilots, US submarine operators, and all manner of professionals with high IQ in their respective fields.  There was one guy whose job it was in the armed forces to calculate the trajectories of projectiles who has calculated that the earth is flat.
    But you say satellites are fake, and now we are supposed to believe they prove FE?


    This guy.


    What's his IQ?
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
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    Re: Flat Earth refuted.
    « Reply #23 on: May 22, 2024, 08:53:54 AM »
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  • But you say satellites are fake, and now we are supposed to believe they prove FE?
    What's his IQ?
    Satellites are balloons way up high in the sky. 

    They have paid government or some head of the snake minion to go on reddit, google, etc. to be the first to respond to these kind of questions, trying to keep you in the space trance.