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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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Re: Flat Earth proof - mountain should be COMPLETELY hidden per science
« Reply #30 on: Today at 12:49:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: St Giles on Today at 11:25:24 AM
    Those guys are literally working to corrupt their intellect. They demonstrate the globe, but try every way they can think of to not believe it. That may be the height of tragedy for a truther.

    You should actually consider watching the video then comment.

    And what you said were 'clouds' from the earlier video is actually terra firma that even a dude like McToon would acknowledge. 
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    « Reply #31 on: Today at 12:54:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Kephapaulos on Today at 12:25:14 PM
    Yes, indeed, because I thought there were others who went on the trip and were still not convinced. Honestly, if somehow a group could somehow penetrate a weak spot somewhere to journey to the ice wall and see what is really there.

    Four flat earthers went on the trip: Jeran, Witsit, the gal and the film maker.  Of the four, I believe all but Witsit went globe upon their return. Regarding Jeran being a shill, I have no idea as I never really looked at his work before or after. Witsit is still a geocentrist, however.
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    Re: Flat Earth proof - mountain should be COMPLETELY hidden per science
    « Reply #32 on: Today at 01:05:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Today at 12:36:42 PM
    I personally never really bought the "model" where the sun rotates around above the surface of the earth on a parallel plane, and there's one guy who actually has a solid model that takes into account the dome or firmament.  If you do have a dome or firmament that's spherical, the altitude of the sun above the plane of the earth would change, and then if the sun is actually somhow in the firmament, there could be various reflections at different angles throughout.

    None of the matters, though ... since the fact that we can consistently "see too far" by itself falsifies globe, or, at least a globe of the dimensions that modern science claim it is.  Posit a bigger globe.  I'm even open to other explanations such as how ether would bend light around a globular surface ... but none has been proposed.  Refraction is utter nonsense.

    I personally believe a geocentric flat earth is way more interesting but I'm not convinced by the AE map. Joe Hanvey was doing some interesting models but the AE dome has issues with gas pressure, I believe; as the atmosphere thins out (anyone climb Everest and breath normally?) That, of course, doesn't quite take into account just how massive the earth is. But there are many examples of line-of-sight that show we 'see too far' for sure and we're still waiting for that photo from space. As old Neil says, "That stuff is flat!"

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    Re: Flat Earth proof - mountain should be COMPLETELY hidden per science
    « Reply #33 on: Today at 02:57:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on Yesterday at 02:59:10 PM
    It's not the "halfway distance" or "distance to the (fictional) horizon". The whole POINT is

    1. The mountain is X miles away.
    2. The earth curves at a rate of Y.
    3. Therefore the mountain should be hidden by Z miles of curvature.

    The whole POINT of these calculators is to calculate how tall something would have to be, to still be seen despite the "dropping off" due to earth curvature.

    And the calculators are extremely straightforward, easy to use, and criticized by no globe-believers. Except this guy, apparently -- who is showing MASSIVE amounts of cope here.

    Do you mean me, Matthew? Not sure what "massive ammounts of cope" is, though.
    So, here are my hand calculations using high school sophmore geometry and proving that the curvature of the earth in 175 miles is approximately 5,106 ft. Algebra, geometry (which includes the pythagorean theorem) are all that are necessary. Trigonometry (taught in 11th grade in my high school) isn't even necessary. "r" is the radius of the Earth, and "h" is the curvature or cord height. Anyone could easily manipulate "d" and run through this for any other span on Earth. This is rock solid, and any calculator that doesn't come out with essentially the same number (allowing for slight differences in the Earth's radius) is WRONG. Let me know if you have any questions.
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