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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2025, 01:24:12 PM »
But, instead of considering the problem with projections, you simply cherry-pick one (and even distort it) that you can pretend proves your case, when in point of fact you've already made up your mind and are simply begging the question, attempting to find evidence for it through your application of confirmation bias.
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Offline Freind

Re: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2025, 01:29:01 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 06, 2025, 01:24:12 PM
But, instead of considering the problem with projections, you simply cherry-pick one (and even distort it) that you can pretend proves your case, when in point of fact you've already made up your mind and are simply begging the question, attempting to find evidence for it through your application of confirmation bias.

What I presented is based on a widely accept FE map.

What is the map you actually accept, and explain what happens at all the edges of the map.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2025, 01:32:31 PM »
Quote from: Freind on December 06, 2025, 01:10:22 PM
You know what the "~" (tilde) symbol means, right? 

It means "approximately". That is often done when the exact figure doesn't matter.

In this case, it does NOT matter.


So, 50 minutes difference. It doesn't matter. An acceptable FE map shows it is more than twice the distance.

Why don't you give me the FE map you accept, and draw a line from Santiago to LA, and another line to Auckland.

I would love to see the map you accept.

No, jackass .. .you've ignored everything I just posted, which is that everything depends entirely on the PROJECTION, which you simply ignore and are oblivious to.  This projection here, which won and award in 2016, is said to be one of the closest to reality in both maintaining the relative sizes of the continents and also the distances between various points on them.  If you look at it, you have the exact same problem that you claim the cherry-picked "acceptable FE map" has, namely, that the distance between Santiago and Auckland is much greater than the distance between Santiago and LA, and so there must be a speed difference there, and you can go ahead and look up a map of the jet stream speeds, where the farther South you get the faster the jet streams can go, resulting in up to several hundreds MPH increase in speed.



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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2025, 01:38:34 PM »
Regarding the "Authagraph Projection", invented by a Japanese architect in 1999, and which won an award in 2016 for being the most accurate projection due to the following "Key Features":
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Key Features & Accuracy
  • Reduced Distortion: It minimizes the size exaggeration of landmasses (like Greenland or Russia) seen in Mercator, showing continents closer to their true relative sizes and positions.
  • Accurate Distances: By angling continents, it accurately depicts distances between them, reflecting a more realistic global perspective.
  • Ocean Representation: It faithfully includes all oceans and Antarctica, which are often poorly represented on other maps.
  • Seamless Tiling: The map can be tiled in any direction, allowing different regions to be centered without seams, offering a continuous view.

Hmmm.  You would expect angling continents away from one another in the "Southern Hemisphere" on an FE (North Pole Azimuthal Equidistant Map).
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Offline Freind

Re: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2025, 01:39:50 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 06, 2025, 01:32:31 PM
No, jackass .. .you've ignored everything I just posted, which is that everything depends entirely on the PROJECTION, which you simply ignore and are oblivious to.  This projection here, which won and award in 2016, is said to be one of the closest to reality in both maintaining the relative sizes of the continents and also the distances between various points on them.  If you look at it, you have the exact same problem that you claim the cherry-picked "acceptable FE map" has, namely, that the distance between Santiago and Auckland is much greater than the distance between Santiago and LA, and so there must be a speed difference there, and you can go ahead and look up a map of the jet stream speeds, where the farther South you get the faster the jet streams can go, resulting in up to several hundreds MPH increase in speed.




I cherry-picked nothing. I took a map I understood to be accepted by flatearthers, simply because they accept it.

Fine, then say I debunked that map I used. Say it.

Then, tell me which FLAT earth map you accept, and tell me what happens at the borders of that map.
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