Author Topic: FLAT EARTH Myth Debunked & Put To Bed (Read 112845 times)

Yeti · « **Reply #30 on:** December 07, 2025, 09:28:09 PM »

Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on December 07, 2025, 08:03:50 AM

So, all of those saints and popes in the past that believed in a GE were ignoring the firmament and were quasi heretical?

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Pope Benedict XV proposed heliocentrism as probable in an encyclical in 1921:

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though this earth on which we live may not be the centre of the universe as at one time was thought, it was the scene of the original happiness of our first ancestors, witness of their unhappy fall, as too of the Redemption of mankind through the Passion and Death of Jesus Christ.

If this were heretical, it would be impossible for a pope to teach it to the whole Church.

Yeti · « **Reply #31 on:** December 07, 2025, 09:36:11 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on December 06, 2025, 01:22:39 PM

So, for the accurate "ball" model, we're at the mercy of the government agencies

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The government agencies that produced the map of the earth on the globe that we have now were the Spanish and Portuguese Catholic monarchs who sent explorers all over the world in the Age of Discovery and mapped the world. And they mapped it onto a globe. And the pope believed their globe maps so well that the pope used it to divide the world between the empires of Spain and Portugal.

Yes, probably a few remote islands have been discovered since the globe maps were drawn by these Catholic kings, but substantially what we know about the world was discovered by Catholic kings.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #32 on:** December 07, 2025, 10:02:58 PM »

Quote from: Yeti on December 07, 2025, 09:36:11 PM

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The government agencies that produced the map of the earth on the globe that we have now were the Spanish and Portuguese Catholic monarchs who sent explorers all over the world in the Age of Discovery and mapped the world. And they mapped it onto a globe. And the pope believed their globe maps so well that the pope used it to divide the world between the empires of Spain and Portugal.

Yes, probably a few remote islands have been discovered since the globe maps were drawn by these Catholic kings, but substantially what we know about the world was discovered by Catholic kings.

No, some of those maps were flat earth based. Some of them also show Antarctica as an exterior circular boundary.

But even the catholic globe models GREATLY differ from the current, atheist model. Again, there is no Catholic working model of the globe. Unless you want to go back and use one from the 1500s.

Quo vadis Domine · « **Reply #33 on:** December 08, 2025, 02:54:07 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on December 07, 2025, 09:28:09 PM

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Pope Benedict XV proposed heliocentrism as probable in an encyclical in 1921:

If this were heretical, it would be impossible for a pope to teach it to the whole Church.

Agreed. Although heliocentrism was apparently declared heretical by the Roman congregation that investigated the Galileo controversy, I don’t believe a pope ever confirmed that judgement. In any event, I believe in a global Earth incorporated in a geocentric system.

It’s interesting to note that the Galileo controversy was never about questioning a global Earth, since most intelligent people understood that aspect of nature, it was solely about heliocentrism vs geocentrism.

Justinian · « **Reply #34 on:** December 08, 2025, 03:57:16 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on December 07, 2025, 09:28:09 PM

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Pope Benedict XV proposed heliocentrism as probable in an encyclical in 1921:

If this were heretical, it would be impossible for a pope to teach it to the whole Church.

Yes, thiis is a very important point.

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