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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => The Earth God Made - Flat Earth, Geocentrism => Topic started by: Ladislaus on October 25, 2024, 08:05:57 AM
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So, this purports to be an app that works on a Flat Earth / Geocentric model and uses that model to make predictions regarding the locations of various celestial objects based on your location ... and states that it can predict eclipses based on the model also. Looks interesting, and I may attend the online app launch session, but I'm not 100% sure how this works yet.
What most people don't know, either, is the software that runs planetariums is actually based on geocentric math. As I've said before, you can come up with a mathematical model to predict pretty much anything, and the "bias" toward one model vs. another has generally been due to the model's simplicity (favoring those over the more complex models), but since (as moden science claims) all motion is relative, Einstein himself stated at one point that there's no one "coordinate system" that's better or more "valid" than any other.
https://firmamenttrackers.journalofgeocentriccosmology.org
https://firmamenttrackers.com/pro-version/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.journalofgeocentriccosmology.flatearthapp&hl=en_US&pli=1
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The Earth is not flat. The pre-Vatican II Church clearly knew and universally taught the Earth was a globe. Flat Earth is a post Vatican II and post 2000s novelty unknown to over a 1000 years of Catholics. The medievals also knew the Earth was a globe. The world has learnt so much since then, and numerous Catholic and other Christian scientists confirmed the truth that the Earth is a globe even before Vatican II. This is the issue with believing the Church allegedly got it wrong for centuries or even a millenium before Vatican II as Feeneyites and Flat earthers do. Sad.
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The Earth is not flat.
Sure, because you say so. Your gratuitous opinion is duly noted.
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Flat Earth is a post Vatican II and post 2000s novelty unknown to over a 1000 years of Catholics.
This shows your crass ignorance of even the basics. No, FE was not "invented" post Vatican II and/or post 2000s (which one is it?).
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This is the issue with believing the Church allegedly got it wrong for centuries ...
Are you a complete idiot? Since when does the shape of the earth have anyting to do with "faith"?
Do you accept the Holy Office condemnation of non-geocentrism as proximate to heresy?
... because the "believing Church" thus ruled, and then a century and a half later, the very same "believing Church" change its mind and suddnely said that heliocentrism was OK and that Catholics didn't have to be geocentrists. Which believing Church was right?
What a moron.
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Where is heaven and hell in your globe earth?
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I suggest reading Robert Sungenis' excellent Flat earth, Flat wrong: "Catholic apologist Robert Sungenis addresses why a growing number of people believe the earth is flat, including the apparently Christian roots of the recent movement. He overviews Bible passages that discuss the earth's shape, the Roman Catholic Church's position on the earth's shape, and historical and scientific evidence for a globe-shaped earth." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46194734-flat-earth-flat-wrong Flat earthism is a ridiculous error. Keep believing it if you want. You'll know the truth one day.
Lonewolf: Heaven is in another realm. We will find out where when we die. Hell, some Saints have said, is in the centre of the Earth. Note that Our Lord said He would be in the heart/centre of the Earth for 3 days. That's only possible on a spherical Earth of which Hell is the central core. A flat earth has no "heart" or centre.
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I suggest reading Robert Sungenis' excellent Flat earth, Flat wrong:
Oh, I've read it ... bought the PDF ... because I respected Dr. Sungenis, and I've spent entire threads taking it apart as the nonsense that it is. I lost respect for him after that book. He was paid by Kolbe to write a debunking book on FE, and so he was begging the question the entire way. If you do a search here on CI, you'll find probably dozens of very lengthy posts taking apart Sungenis' mess of a book, so you're a bit late to the party.
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Ok. Let me see. This topic bores me to death, but I may search for it later on. You do you.
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Ok. Let me see. This topic bores me to death, but I may search for it later on. You do you.
Right. You clearly know nothing about it but then feel you're in a position to simply declare it wrong.
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Are you from the "Flat Earth Society " MarkM?
What you say isn't true. Flat Earth proponents don't necessarily think the earth is a flying pizza- just that the part of the earth that is inhabitable is a plain, and the entire realm is not a spinning globe. There is a lot more to it than you lead people to believe.
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Ok. Let me see. This topic bores me to death, but I may search for it later on. You do you.
The original post was at 8:05 and you responded at 8:09. If it bores you why did you respond so quickly with an attack?
A 100 % of flat earthers were globe earthers at one stage? Including many on this forum
Have you ever changed your mind about anything, or have you been right about everything your entire life?
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Interesting find, Lad. I think scientists really went off track when they started looking at heliocentrism.
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Aha so hell and heaven are not physical places? Are you kidding me?? Is your hell in zero g,because it's in the centre of earth,and damned and demons are floating down there? Do you realize how absurd that is.God says in bible that the earth does not move,but you say that it does.You guys are like divine mercy people,there is no way to reach you.